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What Royal Picture Does This Paint?
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Statement from Harry.
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"Mum clearly taught me a certain set of values which I will always try an uphold despite the roll and the job that that sometimes entails, but I think I will always protect my family and now I have a family to protect so everything that she went through and everything that happened to her is incredibly raw every single day and that's not me being paranoid it's me not wanting a repeat of the past and if anyone else knew what I knew, be it a father be it a husband be it anyone then you'd be doing exactly what I'm doing as well."
Statement from Harry.
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"Mum clearly taught me a certain set of values which I will always try an uphold despite the roll and the job that that sometimes entails, but I think I will always protect my family and now I have a family to protect so everything that she went through and everything that happened to her is incredibly raw every single day and that's not me being paranoid it's me not wanting a repeat of the past and if anyone else knew what I knew, be it a father be it a husband be it anyone then you'd be doing exactly what I'm doing as well."
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Well, this is interesting. The difference in newspaper reports of Kate and Meghan. It’s quite shocking really. https://www.
18:57 Mon 13th Jan 2020
// "They're either Royal or their not". //
That's not strictly true anyway. Harry will always be royal by virtue of the fact that he'll be the son/brother of the king. He'll also always be the Duke of Sussex, and therefore she'll be the Duchess. They will always profit from these associations and titles whether they actively seek to do so or not.
All that will happen is that they won't be able to call themselves 'HRH' and they won't be funded from the palace. Neither of which I suspect will bother them particularly.
That's not strictly true anyway. Harry will always be royal by virtue of the fact that he'll be the son/brother of the king. He'll also always be the Duke of Sussex, and therefore she'll be the Duchess. They will always profit from these associations and titles whether they actively seek to do so or not.
All that will happen is that they won't be able to call themselves 'HRH' and they won't be funded from the palace. Neither of which I suspect will bother them particularly.
"Megan is said to be adament . Harry is said to be conflicted"
"He has an awful choice to make. Upset the Royal family or upset his wife. No wonder he is conflicted."
A good reason to choose one's spouse with care before they become your spouse. (Or alternatively recognise an issue and press the reset button ?)
"He has an awful choice to make. Upset the Royal family or upset his wife. No wonder he is conflicted."
A good reason to choose one's spouse with care before they become your spouse. (Or alternatively recognise an issue and press the reset button ?)
I think it all comes down to the fact that Harry and Meghan want the freedom to support their own charity work without mundane and futile royal duties wasting their time. They wish to stay part of the family whilst doing their own thing. This is understandable to me, and considering the chap is 6th in line for the throne, his importance in the family is becoming less so as the days go by.
//What Royal Picture Does This Paint?//
It paints a picture of somebody who, despite an expensive education, does not know what full stops are and their purpose. One hundred and five words without one takes some doing.
//Trouble with the RF is there are just too many of them. Breed like rabbits…//
Let’s have a think. The Queen’s father had two children. The Queen's sister had two and she had four. Those four children had two children each. Of her eight grandchildren three have issue. William has three and will probably have no more. Peter Phillips has two and, aged 40, will probably have no more. Zara Phillips (Tindall) has two and at 37 and heavily involved with the horsey world perhaps will have no more. Harry has one. The remaining four Beatrice (29 and not long married), Eugenie (28 and about to be married), Louise (14) and James (10) are as yet without issue. That, I would suggest, is hardly akin to the breeding habits of rabbits. This, however, might be nearer to that mark:
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//Hopefully future kings will downsize the whole circus.//
So again, looking at the eight grandchildren, William is second in line to the throne and so has his destiny pre-determined. The Philips have careers of their own, both declined to accept royal titles and are not “working royals”. Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie Similarly follow their own careers. The future of the two youngsters has yet to be determined but their parents, Prince Edward and the Countess of Wessex, have deliberately kept them away from public life so far. Harry, of course, we all know about. So it seems that, if Harry goes his own way, then of the eight, only Prince William will remain a “working royal” and since he will one day be King neither he, nor the country, can really expect anything else.
So, davebro, I think your description of their proliferation is a little stretched.
It paints a picture of somebody who, despite an expensive education, does not know what full stops are and their purpose. One hundred and five words without one takes some doing.
//Trouble with the RF is there are just too many of them. Breed like rabbits…//
Let’s have a think. The Queen’s father had two children. The Queen's sister had two and she had four. Those four children had two children each. Of her eight grandchildren three have issue. William has three and will probably have no more. Peter Phillips has two and, aged 40, will probably have no more. Zara Phillips (Tindall) has two and at 37 and heavily involved with the horsey world perhaps will have no more. Harry has one. The remaining four Beatrice (29 and not long married), Eugenie (28 and about to be married), Louise (14) and James (10) are as yet without issue. That, I would suggest, is hardly akin to the breeding habits of rabbits. This, however, might be nearer to that mark:
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//Hopefully future kings will downsize the whole circus.//
So again, looking at the eight grandchildren, William is second in line to the throne and so has his destiny pre-determined. The Philips have careers of their own, both declined to accept royal titles and are not “working royals”. Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie Similarly follow their own careers. The future of the two youngsters has yet to be determined but their parents, Prince Edward and the Countess of Wessex, have deliberately kept them away from public life so far. Harry, of course, we all know about. So it seems that, if Harry goes his own way, then of the eight, only Prince William will remain a “working royal” and since he will one day be King neither he, nor the country, can really expect anything else.
So, davebro, I think your description of their proliferation is a little stretched.
//I think it all comes down to the fact that Harry and Meghan want the freedom to support their own charity work without mundane and futile royal duties wasting their time.//
Then he should simply step away from their "mundane and futile" (as you describe them) duties without more ado. They can then conduct their lives as the other six of the Queen's grandchildren whom I have described above do. But they should have had the good grace to inform their father and grandmother before running to the TV cameras. Whatever job you do, you keep your employer informed of your intentions (if you have any manners, that is).
Then he should simply step away from their "mundane and futile" (as you describe them) duties without more ado. They can then conduct their lives as the other six of the Queen's grandchildren whom I have described above do. But they should have had the good grace to inform their father and grandmother before running to the TV cameras. Whatever job you do, you keep your employer informed of your intentions (if you have any manners, that is).
// "Megan is said to be adament . Harry is said to be conflicted"
"He has an awful choice to make. Upset the Royal family or upset his wife. No wonder he is conflicted." //
It's not an uncommon situation though is it? Ultimately I'd expect anyone in the same position to prioritise the needs of his wife and child over those of his Dad, Brother and Granny. That's what I'd do anyway.
"He has an awful choice to make. Upset the Royal family or upset his wife. No wonder he is conflicted." //
It's not an uncommon situation though is it? Ultimately I'd expect anyone in the same position to prioritise the needs of his wife and child over those of his Dad, Brother and Granny. That's what I'd do anyway.
Some posters are speaking of Harry as if he was some kind of martyr; no one can choose how they are born or what they are born into. Many have crosses to bear & just get on with it, the issue is how we do it.
As Al Pacino said in The Scent of a Woman "There are only two kinds of people, those who stand up & fight, & those who run away", or if you prefer Emanuel Kant; "Fate shuffles the the cards, & we play".
As Al Pacino said in The Scent of a Woman "There are only two kinds of people, those who stand up & fight, & those who run away", or if you prefer Emanuel Kant; "Fate shuffles the the cards, & we play".
// But they should have had the good grace to inform their father and grandmother before running to the TV cameras. //
It wasn't quite that simple though was it. They all knew of his intentions. He was just told to hold back on any announcement until they'd all met, and then the meeting was put back - by interfering courtiers it seems. Something that seems to have prompted the admittedly rather petulant action.
The exact timeline of exactly what happened will come out in due course no doubt, but the story that they just dropped it like a bombshell on everyone is not true.
It wasn't quite that simple though was it. They all knew of his intentions. He was just told to hold back on any announcement until they'd all met, and then the meeting was put back - by interfering courtiers it seems. Something that seems to have prompted the admittedly rather petulant action.
The exact timeline of exactly what happened will come out in due course no doubt, but the story that they just dropped it like a bombshell on everyone is not true.
// It's hard to just to walk away from family and ties that have been there all your life for the new love of your life. Even if you do, you will always feel you were pulled between the two and it will remain in your mind. //
Of course. That would be why he's apparently conflicted. I wouldn't expect him not to be.
Of course. That would be why he's apparently conflicted. I wouldn't expect him not to be.
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