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Foodbank Use At Record High
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I find this confusing. Some see it as evidence that the government policies are driving lots more people into poverty. But isn't this also a sign that more food is being being donated - so it's a form of redistribution of wealth. If donations haven't increased then presumably when demand was lower food there was a surplus of food in foodbanks or they gave out bigger portions. Demand will equal supply won't it? As more is donated and more are aware then more people will be served. Or are we serving more people as demand grows but giving smaller portions so foodbank users are still going hungry?
I find this confusing. Some see it as evidence that the government policies are driving lots more people into poverty. But isn't this also a sign that more food is being being donated - so it's a form of redistribution of wealth. If donations haven't increased then presumably when demand was lower food there was a surplus of food in foodbanks or they gave out bigger portions. Demand will equal supply won't it? As more is donated and more are aware then more people will be served. Or are we serving more people as demand grows but giving smaller portions so foodbank users are still going hungry?
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// Mozz71...I'm sure TL can confirm this, but didn't the church Harvest Festival proceeds used to go to the most needy? I remember at primary school in the Seventies, we used to have a massive collection of donated food each Harvest. //
That's where a good deal of our donations come from. October is our busiest month, with bags and bags of food coming in daily from churches and schools. Sometimes it's overwhelming, and we need to donate ourselves to other charities.
That's where a good deal of our donations come from. October is our busiest month, with bags and bags of food coming in daily from churches and schools. Sometimes it's overwhelming, and we need to donate ourselves to other charities.
>Some nurses have to use food banks,
That old chestnut is trotted out whenever this is discussed - but the only example I can recall was someone on Question Time audience who claimed to be a nurse using food banks , but it turned out to be very unusual circumstances. If nurses need foodbanks on their salaries then anyone else earning similar salaries- perhaps 50% - plus most pensioners, would need them too.
I understand there is a referral system but I still don't know whether they adjust the number of 'clients' when the supply of donated goods increases- do they accept more referrals that they previously turned away, do the referrers loosen the criteria, do they give out bigger baskets of food, or do they give the surplus food to staff or homeless or simply throw it away?
I understand the issues caused by UC delays combined with people not saving enough for a rainy day, but I think stories of nurses being referred to foodbanks are not believable or show there is something wrong with the referral system or how people prioritise spending (pets, takeaways v carrots, porridge, phone/lifestyle v food).
But, whatever, it's good that so many people choose to donate to foodbanks
That old chestnut is trotted out whenever this is discussed - but the only example I can recall was someone on Question Time audience who claimed to be a nurse using food banks , but it turned out to be very unusual circumstances. If nurses need foodbanks on their salaries then anyone else earning similar salaries- perhaps 50% - plus most pensioners, would need them too.
I understand there is a referral system but I still don't know whether they adjust the number of 'clients' when the supply of donated goods increases- do they accept more referrals that they previously turned away, do the referrers loosen the criteria, do they give out bigger baskets of food, or do they give the surplus food to staff or homeless or simply throw it away?
I understand the issues caused by UC delays combined with people not saving enough for a rainy day, but I think stories of nurses being referred to foodbanks are not believable or show there is something wrong with the referral system or how people prioritise spending (pets, takeaways v carrots, porridge, phone/lifestyle v food).
But, whatever, it's good that so many people choose to donate to foodbanks
Completely agree with fiction-factory about the suggestion that some nurses need to use foodbanks - as ff states, it is a hoary old chestnut that is always trotted out when the question of foodbanks arises. There 'may' be some, but they are very much the exception that proves the rule, and I would suggest is down to their own poor money management.
Nurses are not that badly paid.
Band 5 pay scale (your 'rank and file' nurses) ranges from £24,000 for less than one year service to £30,000 for 7 years service, and Band 6 (junior sisters and the like) ranges from £30,400 for less than 1 year in the post to over £37,000 for 8 years.
The UK's average salary is £28,677, so they're not doing too badly.
Add the overtime that many nurses choose to work and it really starts to mount-up.
Nurses are not that badly paid.
Band 5 pay scale (your 'rank and file' nurses) ranges from £24,000 for less than one year service to £30,000 for 7 years service, and Band 6 (junior sisters and the like) ranges from £30,400 for less than 1 year in the post to over £37,000 for 8 years.
The UK's average salary is £28,677, so they're not doing too badly.
Add the overtime that many nurses choose to work and it really starts to mount-up.
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