Would You Back A Second Referendum

[Bobbisox1]

I would not and if one was implemented I won’t vote again, there’s calls for another one, what happened to democracy ?

[spathiphyllum]

I would vote again because if you choose not to then regardless, they will count all the votes and all you've actually done is take away your own voice.

that would be cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[fiction-factory]

>The Problem is people like Fiction Factory and The Loony , were easily persuaded to vote leave by Agent Cummings who spent five years living in Russia, with connections to the KGB, then became
Campaign Manager for the vote leave party, and is now Johnsons chief adviser

Nice try, gulliver, but once again you have it all wrong. I voted Remain. But unlike you I'm a democrat and I feel the result should have been honoured and am fed up of all the attempts made by too many MPs to stymie the implementation.

[pixie374]

I agree, bobbi... if this is not carried through as promised, there would be no point in anyone voting again.
It would be possible to have only two options, if there was a second one. Remain has already been ruled out, so would not be an option anyway.

[pixie374]

Ff... a man with integrity :-)

[ToraToraTora]

yes pixie, hence my response at 10:42

[pixie374]

You did add remain in, as an option though, ttt. Which has already been ruled out.

[gulliver1]

11.30 "nice try" looks like I scored.

[wiltsman]

At least with a second referendum, we will hopefully now have the full facts to make a sensible decision. I wish some of these people who say they knew exactly what they were voting for three years ago had contacted me to explain the complexities of the Irish backstop and the many other issues that have come to light since. And why at the time, was Boris nearly always intervewed in front of his battle bus with a misleading massive banner on it stating a completely false claim about how much the NHS would benefit if we left the EU. Now we know much more than we did in 2016 let the people properly decide this time.

[hereIam]

My first instinct is 'no', but if there's a chance of remain winning if me and others who voted leave the first time round won't vote again, then I may just change my mind. Will be very angry if there is a second referendum though.

[pixie374]

Wiltsman, anyone who understood English, understood what it said on the bus.
I doubt most leavers voted that way because they believed it would be easiest- clearly not. But because they believed it would be best in the long-run.
Politicians pratting about trying to get out of it for 3 years, is not an excuse to completely ignore it now.

[fiction-factory]

>11.30 "nice try" looks like I scored.

Yes, another own goal.

[EDDIE51]

The very definituon of a 'Referndum' is that it is ONE OFF !!!
If there was a second oned it would NOT be a referndum !! It would only be an opinion poll !!

[MWG14]

No.

[ToraToraTora]

pixie: "You did add remain in, as an option though, ttt. Which has already been ruled out. " - yes I meant the nature of a binary choice. I Remain is better than MayBo Brino.

[pixie374]

In theory, another referendum will be a choice of "crap deal" or "no deal".

[ToraToraTora]

wiltsman: "At least with a second referendum, we will hopefully now have the full facts to make a sensible decision. iWhat part of the word "leave" was ambiguous?
"I wish some of these people who say they knew exactly what they were voting for three years ago had contacted me to explain the complexities of the Irish backstop"
The Irish border is not an issue really, it was weaponised by the EUSSR and their VBQC fifth columnists
" And why at the time, was Boris nearly always intervewed in front of his battle bus with a misleading massive banner on it stating a completely false claim about how much the NHS would benefit if we left the EU." - only misleading to the non English speaking world and a judge has recently ruled the figures were accurate

[NellieMay]

I would not back a second referendum, but would vote. We need a general election. As to being lied to by all the referendum campaigns in 2016, they didn't influence me at all. Both sides were as bad as each other. If you go out and vote without first some research or back knowledge about what you are voting for, then more fool you.

[ichkeria]

A referendum to vote in the deal parliament might reject seems like the obvious solution to me.
Many leave supporters don’t want one as they’re afraid we’d vote to remain just as I did not want one to begin with as I was afraid we’d vote to leave and it would cause chaos.
How wrong I was ;-)

[NellieMay]

Background.

And I echo TTT above.

[THECORBYLOON]

TTT, the judgement did not say the £350 million figure was accurate. What it said was, "It appears that if the Claimant had said/endorsed a figure of £350m per week gross, or £250m per week net, there would have been no complaint."

The word "gross" was not included in the claim.