Another Jewish M P Leaves Labour......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50077384
//Mrs Ellman, who is Jewish, has been a party member for 55 years but said she "can no longer advocate voting Labour when it risks Corbyn becoming PM".//
//Mrs Ellman, who has been an MP since 1997, said anti-Semitism had become "mainstream" in Labour under Mr Corbyn's leadership.
"I believe that Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to serve as our prime minister," she said. // - who needs opposition when the party is self destructing? Can Labour ever reverse the path of extremism they have taken?

[dannyk13]

Not without getting rid of Corbyn, McDonnell and Momentum.

[jim360]

Labour has to sort this out but the way to do that is for a leader to take responsibility. The timing may be awful, but if there is any honour in politics then Corbyn should, at the very least, personally apologise. And, more to the point, consider his position.

[naomi24]

//Can Labour ever reverse the path of extremism they have taken? //

I think not. Leadership aside, with Momentum running the show the rot has well and truly taken root.

[10ClarionSt]

Wishful thinking, eh, Naomi?

[naomi24]

Just my opinion, Clarion.

[10ClarionSt]

:o)

[naomi24]

What do you think, Clarion? Can Labour ever reverse the path of extremism they have taken?

[ToraToraTora]

10cs probably doesn't think they are doing anything wrong naomi.

[10ClarionSt]

I just love this website! People such as Tory Tory Tory Man know everything. All the world is here.
To answer Naomi; leaders come and go, but the issues are always there. I keep hearing about anti-semitism in the Labour Party. Obviously some people are much more informed than most of us. I don't subscribe to any particular websites or publications for Labour, so I am not aware of the specifics of the allegations. I'm sure someone will put that right very shortly. I wonder who? :o)

[ToraToraTora]

plenty of examples 10cs no need to dig them out again.

[naomi24]

Clarion, This might help.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45030552

[Ellipsis]

Politics meets religion. What could possibly go wrong?

[ludwig]

// Can Labour ever reverse the path of extremism they have taken? //

They don't seem to want to. Every resignation from a moderate or non-Jeremy worshipper, is met with cries of 'good riddance traitor!'.

They seem more concerned with maintaining the ideological purity of the party than gaining power and doing anything useful.

[drmorgans]

Isn't Labour's problem that left-wingers like Corbyn are pro-Palestine and anti-Israel which has led some to be antisemitic?

[ludwig]

// Isn't Labour's problem that left-wingers like Corbyn are pro-Palestine and anti-Israel which has led some to be antisemitic? //

Yes, but the undoubted presence of anti-Semites in the Labour party is complicated by the fact that there are vested interests that would seek to stifle any criticism of Israel on a political level by calling it anti-Semitism. Also, they just want to use it as a stick to beat the Labour party with.

Substitute Conservative party and Islamophobia, and you have the same situation on the right wing.

[drmorgans]

Yet there hasn't been a steady stream of prominent and long-standing Muslim Tory MPs leaving the party saying that they cannot stay. Or have they and it is not being publicised?

[naomi24]

If there is Islamophobia in the Conservative Party, and that’s debateable, it’s nowhere near the level of the anti-Semitism in the Labour Party. I think that is being bandied in an effort to negate reality.

[jim360]

It's not debatable [that there is Islamophobia in the Tory Party], but I do agree that it is currently at a far less serious level. But whether there is or is not Islamophobia among Tories is completely irrelevant to the fact that Labour have to clean up their own house and fast.

[ludwig]

// Yet there hasn't been a steady stream of prominent and long-standing Muslim Tory MPs leaving the party saying that they cannot stay //

No, because there aren't really the same divisions or extent of problem there. A lot of what's going on in Labour is as much to do with the right and left of Labour fighting over the ownership of the party as it is anything else - MPs are leaving and citing anti-Semitism as a parting shot to cause maximum damage to Corbyn, when actually they're Blairites who can no longer live with his loony policies.

What I meant was that there are vested interests that would seek to label any criticism of Islam by any Conservatives as institutional Islamophobia in the Tory party, not only to shut down the criticism, but also to attack the party.

[jno]

I don't believe for a minute that Corby is anti-semitic; he may well be anti-zionist, but then so am I. However, his complete clulessness in dealing with the accusations is what makes him unfit to lead anything.