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Off Duty Police Headbutter
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Ahh it all makes sense now! The sadism of the met. Vile. I can not believe the off duty cop isn't facing retribution. Reasonable force? Pffft. What kind of example does this set! Absolutely vile.
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As has been said the guy was already restrained If this copper is willing to head butt the guy in full glare of the public ; when any threat was already neutralised ;i wonder what he is prepared to do to other people , when there is no one around in a non life threatening situation . Whatever you think of the guy is irrelevant in the circumstance
13:30 Thu 10th Oct 2019
sanmac - // Spath, let's be honest. This was never a debate; it was, and is a thunderous cacophony of conflicting opinions full of sound and fury, and signifying nothing but an input of money into the AB's penny-jar. //
I would certainly agree with your assessment - but these contentious issues always pan out like this on here - two sides take up differing positions, and, barring the occasional snide personal trolling, try and convince each other of the rightness of their view.
Personally I do enjoy these debates, obviously, I partake in them regularly, and so do many others, and it does keep us, well, most of us, out of mischief.
I would certainly agree with your assessment - but these contentious issues always pan out like this on here - two sides take up differing positions, and, barring the occasional snide personal trolling, try and convince each other of the rightness of their view.
Personally I do enjoy these debates, obviously, I partake in them regularly, and so do many others, and it does keep us, well, most of us, out of mischief.
An idiot on a train posed a major risk by threatening to stab people. That threat was neutralised in a swift manner. Cop or not, off duty or in civilian clothing, he derves at the very least a Chief Constable's Commendation.
Splat is the type of poster who believes that the London Bridge Attackers should have been apprehended and reasoned with.
The family of PC Keith Palmer would like a word with you Splat.....by the throat I would imagine!
Splat is the type of poster who believes that the London Bridge Attackers should have been apprehended and reasoned with.
The family of PC Keith Palmer would like a word with you Splat.....by the throat I would imagine!
ChillDoubt - // An idiot on a train posed a major risk by threatening to stab people. That threat was neutralised in a swift manner. Cop or not, off duty or in civilian clothing, he derves at the very least a Chief Constable's Commendation. //
I don't think anyone would argue with the office joining in the restraint of a disturbed individual in a potentially threatening situation, but as I and several others have said, headbutting someone is not restraint, it's assault, and that is where my issue begins and ends.
I don't think anyone would argue with the office joining in the restraint of a disturbed individual in a potentially threatening situation, but as I and several others have said, headbutting someone is not restraint, it's assault, and that is where my issue begins and ends.
headbutting someone is not restraint, it's assault, and that is where my issue begins and ends.
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My issue ends with someone who has never been in any kind of confrontational/threatening situation, thus cannot discern between restraint and neutralise in terms of a real threat.
I'm sure those passengers who were fearful of quite possibly being stabbed were grateful that such a threat was nullified in a swift and direct manner.
Here endeth the lesson.
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My issue ends with someone who has never been in any kind of confrontational/threatening situation, thus cannot discern between restraint and neutralise in terms of a real threat.
I'm sure those passengers who were fearful of quite possibly being stabbed were grateful that such a threat was nullified in a swift and direct manner.
Here endeth the lesson.
Chilldoubt
Obviously some 'experts' on here attended different ' Officer Safety Courses' than I attended.Sitting behind their keyboards they are so small minded to contemplate the risks that were going through the officer's mind and the fatal consequences that may have arisen for him. All the training that helps officers to eliminate a potential fatal contact with a suspect went out the window in this incidence.
Absolutely none of the advice could of been put into practice by the officer so he improvised as best he could for his safety and others. As much as you train it doesn't always go according to plan. In the Officer Safety Training Course it is assumed that you work in pairs at all times when dealing with suspects and both of you will be equipped with certain equipment to restrain.Baton,handcuffs,spit masks,. Andy Hughes will no doubt tell us what else this officer did to place himself at a great disadvantage whilst dealing with a deranged violent suspect. If he can't I will gladly acquaint him with what this officer would not be happy with and the position he was forced into due to the circumstances.
This might of been going through the officer's mind when he was up front and out of his safety zone with a deranged foreign suspect.
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TB and HIV are the latest weapons against the unsuspecting officer.
Best to get in quick and first if you are off duty and not equipped with rubber gloves and a spit mask.
Of course Andy Hughes has attended these courses and knows better than anyone else. It's dangerous work sitting in a BT office overseeing a load of little girls ain't it ?
The arrest of the felon at the Mall in Manchester was a copybook arrest by GMP. Two officers. One in the stand off position. Out of striking distance with Taser covering his oppo.Suspect on the ground whilst properly restrained with handcuffs etc.
The officer was face to face with the idiot in the train and was within baton striking distance. Not good as he didn't have his baton or handcuffs. He could of got a knee in the groin also.Nothing was in favour for that officer so he improvised. Andy Hughes and Peace Lily have never been in that position I'll wager.
Obviously some 'experts' on here attended different ' Officer Safety Courses' than I attended.Sitting behind their keyboards they are so small minded to contemplate the risks that were going through the officer's mind and the fatal consequences that may have arisen for him. All the training that helps officers to eliminate a potential fatal contact with a suspect went out the window in this incidence.
Absolutely none of the advice could of been put into practice by the officer so he improvised as best he could for his safety and others. As much as you train it doesn't always go according to plan. In the Officer Safety Training Course it is assumed that you work in pairs at all times when dealing with suspects and both of you will be equipped with certain equipment to restrain.Baton,handcuffs,spit masks,. Andy Hughes will no doubt tell us what else this officer did to place himself at a great disadvantage whilst dealing with a deranged violent suspect. If he can't I will gladly acquaint him with what this officer would not be happy with and the position he was forced into due to the circumstances.
This might of been going through the officer's mind when he was up front and out of his safety zone with a deranged foreign suspect.
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TB and HIV are the latest weapons against the unsuspecting officer.
Best to get in quick and first if you are off duty and not equipped with rubber gloves and a spit mask.
Of course Andy Hughes has attended these courses and knows better than anyone else. It's dangerous work sitting in a BT office overseeing a load of little girls ain't it ?
The arrest of the felon at the Mall in Manchester was a copybook arrest by GMP. Two officers. One in the stand off position. Out of striking distance with Taser covering his oppo.Suspect on the ground whilst properly restrained with handcuffs etc.
The officer was face to face with the idiot in the train and was within baton striking distance. Not good as he didn't have his baton or handcuffs. He could of got a knee in the groin also.Nothing was in favour for that officer so he improvised. Andy Hughes and Peace Lily have never been in that position I'll wager.
Disregarding retrocop's usual diatribe in my direction (your man crush is showing again retro!) -
In spite of all his spluttering and inside knowledge, the facts are clearly there to be seen -
this individual was already restrained and unable to do anything except wait to be arrested, the officer came and stood in front of him for several seconds, adding nothing to the restraint, and then headbutted him which was a) unnecessary) and b) assault by any measure of the term.
None of retrocop's pointless bluster and typical macho insults detract from the simple fact, the officer assaulted someone, he should be punished for that as the office that it is.
In spite of all his spluttering and inside knowledge, the facts are clearly there to be seen -
this individual was already restrained and unable to do anything except wait to be arrested, the officer came and stood in front of him for several seconds, adding nothing to the restraint, and then headbutted him which was a) unnecessary) and b) assault by any measure of the term.
None of retrocop's pointless bluster and typical macho insults detract from the simple fact, the officer assaulted someone, he should be punished for that as the office that it is.
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