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youngmafbog | 08:48 Sat 17th Aug 2019 | News
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When May disastrously put out she was going to clobber everyone for 'old tax' she lost her majority.

Is making stamp duty (a tax I believe should be abolished) going to be the same?

And how will it help the housing market? Either people will slap the tax on the property or refuse to sell thus stagnating the market.

And why should people who already own a house and so have paid this draconian tax have to pay it again?

Me thinks our Sajid hasn't thought this one through!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7365825/Chancellor-Sajid-Javid-hints-slash-taxes-months.html
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Javid: // Britain has some of the ‘lowest rates on government debt this country has ever seen’. //

Well short term, we are borrowing more than twice what we were borrowing last year.

UK Government like for like monthly borrowing:
June 2018 - £3.3bn
July 2019 - £7.2Bn

Long term the Government will borrow £30bn this year.
Twenty years ago we made a £10bn surplus, and borrowed nothing.

Did Javid have the same maths teacher as Abbott ?
What's to stop folk lowering the price but making up the difference between the "real" price (plus Stamp Duty) by selling the fittings (or any item) separately?
09.43. Gromit , Which Political Party was in power twenty years ago, when we had a £10bn surplus and borrowed nothing ?? .
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//Me thinks our Sajid hasn't thought this one through! //

How unusual for a government Minister to announce something that had not been properly thought through!

Agreed, so-called "Stamp Duty" (i.e. purchase tax on houses) is an abomination. Quite why the government should take a cut on a private house sale is anybody's guess.
GROMIT, this appears to contradict your level of borrowing claim.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/928f7a7c-666d-11e9-a79d-04f350474d62
THECORBYLOON
Behind a paywall. What does it say ?
NJ the government takes taxes on all sorts of items so why not houses?
GROMIT, it one of those daft things where you can view it in the Google search but not directly so give me a minute to find it again.
10.34 Gromit 20 years ago 1999, ???.
GROMIT, ignore me, I was thinking on 2009. DOH!
THECORBYLOON

So far this year, Apr-June Government borrowing is £4.5bn higher than last year. In 3 months they have borrowed £17.9bn. So my £30bn estimate for the year is probably too low.

Meanwhile, Debt at the end of June 2019 excluding Bank of England (mainly quantitative easing) was £1,636.9 billion (or 74.8% of GDP); an increase of £37.6 billion (or a decrease of 0.7 percentage points of GDP) on June 2018.

The figure was actually £11 billion in surplus.
It seems a stupid idea to me. Already there's far too much incentive not to sell. There ought not be any tax on mobility anyway. Is it not just something under consideration at present ? Or is the thought that Corbyn is threatening so much to much him and his party unelectable that the Tory can contemplate inflicting what it likes and remain safe ?
//NJ the government takes taxes on all sorts of items so why not houses?//

Because there is no justification to take a cut from a private sale. If I buy a car privately I don't pay "Stamp Duty".

//Which Political Party was in power twenty years ago, when we had a £10bn surplus and borrowed nothing ?? .//

And alongside that question you have to ask why was that government in such a fortunate position? One thing's for sure - it was not their financial prudence of the previous two years that made it so.
Mind you, stupid ideas seem to be favourite with authorities a lot of the time. One's pleasantly surprised when they opt for something sensible.
When Javid states,

// the ‘lowest rates on government debt this country has ever seen’. //

he is talking nonsense (blatant lying).
//he is talking nonsense (blatant lying).//

Blatant lying from a Tory government? Surely not?
Javid: // Britain has some of the ‘lowest rates on government debt this country has ever seen’. //

Listening to Javid, you would assume Government debt is declining sharply.
In reality, when the Conservatives took power in 2010, the national debt was just over £1000bn.
Today it is just short of £2000bn. They have nearly doubled it.

https://fullfact.org/media/uploads/uk_government_debt_in_cash.png
11.00" he is talking nonsense Blatant lying " no Gromit, it is called The Tory Propaganda Machine which switches itself on when the Tories start to panic.

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