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Gun Crime In The Metropolis

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retrocop | 12:08 Sun 07th Jul 2019 | News
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https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/07/second-man-shot-dead-weekend-gun-violence-london-10127834/

Four shootings ,two fatal,since Friday in London. Looks like gun crime is playing catch up with knife crime. Not confined to one area. Anywhere and everywhere.

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pp --I recall in the 50s being able to go out and leave the door unlocked. No graffiti adorning the town. No vandalism. Respect for older people, policemen, teachers . Petty thefts usually carried out by people known to the police. No dropping litter on the pavements. No smoking on the lower decks of buses. No being drunk in the streets or you would be taken off to...
11:38 Mon 08th Jul 2019
pp --I recall in the 50s being able to go out and leave the door unlocked. No graffiti adorning the town. No vandalism. Respect for older people, policemen, teachers .
Petty thefts usually carried out by people known to the police.
No dropping litter on the pavements. No smoking on the lower decks of buses. No being drunk in the streets or you would be taken off to the police station and put in a cell for a few hours. No obscene language in the streets. Children could play outside without fear of being taken.
Compared to today life was much better and safer .You can keep your 'tech and 24/7 social media. Might be nostalgic but if you weren't alive back then keep your opinions to yourself.
Oh another.. "this is how it was, face it, and if ye weren't there, shut up".
My mother/father/uncles and aunts were there!
My history teacher was 38 and taught us about WW1 and 2. Was that allowed, Andres?
I agree with everything that Andres has said, that's how it was in the 40's and 50's.
ANDRES, is it likely that the life experiences of an individual are replicated up and down the country? I think not .
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I was there in the 50’s. Exactly as Andres described. Far better times with regard to law and order.
Andres. Don’t forget we had enamel signs on lamp posts then’No Spitting’ 10 bob fine.
Of course the country was full of TB sanatoriums and iron lungs in the 40’s and 50’s. TB was eradicated then but now rears it’s ugly head here again. You might ask how that can happen and where does it come from?
I think the fact you claim to remember the 50's indicates my point that statistics are more reliable than an 80 year olds memory.
In the 50's you wouldn't have a clue if bill 50 miles up the road was stabbed to death.

Nowadays it will be in every media outlet in many forms from papers, to notifications on the phone to websites.

Crime may seem worse now. But in reality, it isn't.
Spath,//are more reliable than an 80 year olds memory.//
Don't start with the insults.Your posting rubbish again.
Crime doubled in the late 50's early 60's. It didn't late 2017 early 2018.

Why?
Of course you could leave your door unlocked in the 50s. Nobody had owt worth nicking!
My main and only point in this thread is to AOG. That is - Increased crime has nout all to do with immigration.
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https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/08/weekend-bloodshed-police-launch-fourth-murder-probe-london-10129887/?ico=pushly-notifcation-small&utm_source=pushly

The butcher's bill has risen to four over the weekend in London alone. In the 50's you wouldn't get four murders nationally.
What about the towpath murders? Early 50's in London...
"In the 50's you wouldn't get four murders nationally."

You are making yourself look silly now!

Just look at Peter Manuel.

Heard of him? Probs not cus i doubt the paper reported on it. (Although i bet it did).
Media just wasn't as wide spread. It is how it is.
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//In the 50's you wouldn't have a clue if bill 50 miles up the road was stabbed to death.//

As usual you write with no knwledge of those times.
I have my father's old scrap book of his service in the police with newspaper cuttings from the war years to his retirement in 1969.
I have a press photograph from the front page of a national paper showing my father escorting a handcuffed prisoner to court for a double murder in Edgeware Middx. The accused was a soldier dressed in No 1 uniform and he was accused of murdering a doctor and his wife in their home.
That made NATIONAL news and people in Skegness learnt of it and it put Edgeware on the map.Why? Because it was comparitively rare. Today it wouldn't make the front page of a local freebie Guardian.
Life is becoming very cheap these days in the UK just like a 3rd world country!
So because of that you think you knew about every crime and murder that happened in the 50's?
"Life is becoming very cheap these days in the UK just like a 3rd world country!"

The most deluded statement i have ever read on AB.

PP would be sorry to miss that one.

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