Caster Semenya Looses Case

[youngmafbog]

Victory for the women who race?

I can't see this going away anytime soon so how will this end up, one race for everyone or a separate race for those classed in between?


https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/may/01/caster-semenya-loses-landmark-legal-case-iaaf-athletics

[-Talbot-]

anotheoldgit
Perhaps they should consider separate events for Blacks and Whites, since it is often shown that Black Athletes are much more superior in certain events.


anotheoldgit
-Talbot-
/// Again AOG...mixed race athletes? ///

Well since it has not yet been proven that mixed race runners have an unfair advantage over other runners, then I can see of no reason why they should be segregated from other race runners.




Why have you gone from 'Athletes' to 'Runners'?

[mushroom25]

when trans-females are allowed to compete against x-x people (as they inevitably will), DSD rules will be kinda irrelevant.

[hereIam]

Is Caster Semenya trans ? I can't tell from this thread.

[pixie374]

I don't think they will be allowed to, ultimately, mushroom. This has been achieved so far, by keeping it as quiet as possible and silencing by name-calling. Insidious, really. People are becoming more and more aware and there will be a massive backlash sooner or later.

[pixie374]

No, intersex, hereiam. Biologically, intersex male, but fairly, brought up and believed to be female.

[anotheoldgit]

pixie374
/// I genuinely don't separate people by colour, aog. ///

Perhaps you don't, but there are plenty who do, and they certainly make sure that they are classed as separate cases.

[pixie374]

Once they are represented fairly and treated fairly, we will hopefully lose that, aog . We might progress eventually x

[Zacs-Master]

(you couldn't make it up folks, could you?)

[pixie374]

Wouldn't believe you if you had, zacs :-)

[Zacs-Master]

'Perhaps you don't, but there are plenty who do, and they certainly make sure that they are classed as separate cases.'

What like suggesting they compete separately in athletics, you mean?

[Mamyalynne]

Sometimes it's easier to sit in a corner and cradle your head in your hands whilst moaning softly.

[pixie374]

Can I join you, mamya please? X

[Zacs-Master]

I'm already there ;-)

wibble

[pixie374]

Lol

[Mamyalynne]

Collective wibbling and a dance round the fire on Beltane night might be the only way.

[cassa333]

I’ve only just come to this thread and tbh I thought ago post at 11.54 was tongue in cheek and not serious???

I couldn’t tell from the article but is this person trans or just a female with exceptionally high testosterone levels?

[Mamyalynne]

Answered above by Pixie.

[Zacs-Master]

Casa, You need to see AOG's 2016 thread which will confirm it was no joke.

[cassa333]

Ah just seen pixies post about intersex.

The fact she has more biological ‘maleness’ is the issue. She was raised as a female so will obviously through that identify as more female but DNA is a key factor I think.

I think it would be a really interesting experiment, but probably not safe really, to take a group of say male athletes and female athletes and give them the reverse hormone treatment to see how they fair against each other and a group of ‘normal’ athletes.

Athletes by definition want to be the best they can so will (hopefully) embrace doing as well as they can regardless of treatment.

[youngmafbog]

Good God, here's me posting a question on women racing against potential 'men' and 90% of the posts are on ruddy colour.

Grrrrrr