Is It Now A Sacking Offence To Voice A Legitimate Question??

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-6894517/Gordon-Strachan-faces-axe-Sky-fury-grows-sex-offender-comments.html

Referring to convicted sex offender Adam Johnson possible return to top class football, Sky Sport's Gordon Strachan, asked this.

/// 'If he goes on to the pitch and people start calling him names, have we got to do the same as it is to the racist situation? Is it all right to call him names now after doing his three years - have we got to allow that to happen?' ///

[pixie374]

That doesn't excuse it at all though. Maybe at one time, his job would have been purely about the football. Nowadays, it is also about public perception and popularity, which they are generally happy to make use of. I am surprised he has had no PR training at all , when it is difficult nowadays to keep anything "private".

[agchristie]

Zacs,I was simply making a point that if he had not been in the public eye he would not have had the glittering career that he had and given so much entertainment and pleasure to so many people.

That should be his epitaph,not for an analogy that some find dubious.

[pixie374]

That was my point too.... he will make the most of the publicity, naturally... but it works both ways.

[agchristie]

//I am surprised he has had no PR training at all..//

Sky have had umpteen pundits that have proven controversial so that is a good point.That is why they have to take their share of responsibility.

George Best was clearly the worse for wear on several occasions but that seemed acceptable too...

[pixie374]

He was very good-looking though.... :-). If you are going to be an idiot in public, people will notice. That's all really.

[agchristie]

Not SKY so much but there was no one more opinionated than Brian Clough yet he was always on the screen as a pundit, panelist,interviewee.

How times have changed!

[agchristie]

Sometimes even those who championed black players get it wrong...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/09/22/ron-atkinson-on-the-one-word-that-has-defined-his-career-to-this/amp/

[vetuste_ennemi]

//to correlate being called names as a sex offender or being called names for being black... is crass and den//

That depends on the nature of the sexual offence, doesn't it, Pixie?

Adam Johnson was convicted on one count of "grooming" and one count of having sex with an under-age, namely fifteeen year old, girl. When did the police (or anybody on here) start worrying about that?

[pixie374]

If black players behaved like Johnson did, pubkic perception would be the same. They are not comparable otherwise.

[pixie374]

I didn't say they should, VE. Just that trying to compare a convicted sex offender with someone born black, just is never going to work.

[sp1814]

saintpeter48

It's not a valid question.

Black football players are guilty of nothing. You cannot compare the treatment of a convicted felon to someone who gets abuse because of their ethnicity.

[agchristie]

Sp,off thread I realise and you don't have to answer this.Strachan's comment was unscripted.

Do you believe Channel 4 should sack Jon Snow?

[sp1814]

agchirstie

I couldn't give a fig.

When the Jon Snow story cropped up, I couldn't care less about it. I couldn't care less about what happens with Strachan.

I just don't think that people should equate the abuse of black footballers and convicted sex offenders.

People who do that have an agenda.

Pathetic.

[agchristie]

Sp,ok,thank you for replying.

[agchristie]

Strachan was once asked for a quick word by a reporter to which he retorted: 'Velocity'!

[-Talbot-]

sp1814
“The comparison with black people is odious though”

Amen to that.

Anyone trying to compare to two...







Was he trying to make a comparison?

[pixie374]

He did. I have no idea what he was "trying" to do.

[-Talbot-]

Explain how he made a comparison.

[pixie374]

// If he goes on to the pitch and people start calling him names, have we got to do the same as it is to the racist situation//

[-Talbot-]

How is that a 'comparison?