Parliament To Vote On The Brexit Deal Before Christmas.

[Gromit]

It seems to be a deal that no one wants. Will MPs vote for it anyway?
If the Government lose the vote what would happen next. Would May have to resign?

[Togo]

Wrong again....but don't let that stop you trying to wring sympathy out of an ill informed "younger" generation who had none for millions of disenfranchised fishermen, steel workers, farm workers, and countless other trades and occupations reduced to ashes by the EUSSR ponzi scheme. I am not talking vacuous, self centred, corrupt(proven) vanity projects all conducted to deceive, but real jobs for real people. Get over yourself and leave the mirror once in a while, it lies.

[Gromit]

// ...steel workers, farm workers, and countless other trades and occupations reduced to ashes by the EUSSR ponzi scheme. //

We managed to decimate the UK Steel industry without any help from Europe. The farmers are the only single group (other than MEPs) actually gaining from the EU.

[kvalidir]

Get over yourself Togo, the Steel industry and our manufacturing industries were butchered by your precious heroine Margaret Thatcher, not by my generation. None of the farmers around here are keen on Brexit either, their East European workers are leaving in droves in preparation for it and they can't get enough native British people to DO any of the jobs you imply were stolen away, they are rightly tearing their hair out at the sheer stupidity of this imposed fiasco, but as we all know you and your elected ones have done SUCH a sterling job of fecking it up that BREXIT is never likely to actually happen at all, so knock yourselves out, my generation will just have to mop up your mess long after you've gone.

[Gromit]

The next 4 weeks in Politics are going to be very interesting, and literally anything could happen. Nothing is certain, and everything is up in the air.

I fear for the future of our country, when we are at the mercy of these Short-term thinking, Party before country, third-rate politicians.

[tonyav]

Mmmmm, wonder how the fruit and veg got picked before we joined the Common Market and before Blair opened the doors.

[mushroom25]

//Reject the deal, = No Brexit, General Election.//

a GE won't prevent Brexit Gulliver, unless labour ditch mr Corbyn, for he is a Eurosceptic, always has been. without Brexit in some form, there can be no (legal) means of enacting the renationalisation plans in mr Corbyn's manifesto.

[kvalidir]

I assume people were brought up thinking manual work wasn't beneath them before Mrs T and her ilk dismantled everything in favour of the yuppy generation who with all due respect thought they were infinitely better than they were, and passed that same entitled stance on to their spawn. How many British fruit pickers do you know, or British people who aspire to be one?

[kvalidir]

Don't take my word for it either...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-agriculture-farms-fruit-picking-migrant-workers-labour-shortage-a8469806.html

[Kromovaracun]

The prospect of a 'no deal' exit does indeed worry me sick. All the available evidence suggests to me that it will be an absolute disaster for this country's economy. That isn't something I particularly want to live through. I'm also not convinced that this fantasy of sovereignty outside the EU is going to lead to any meaningful independence - I think it's overwhelmingly likely to result in complete subordination to the USA. That's not a future which I think is best for the UK.

[tonyav]

I used to go fruit picking as a school kid along with most of the kids in my street.
Makes me wonder if the farmers are worried that they may have to start paying proper wages ( I could be wrong though ).

Shame about the exploitation though.
https://theecologist.org/2011/oct/10/bitter-harvest-how-exploitation-and-abuse-stalks-migrant-workers-uk-farms

[-Talbot-]

Shocking treatment by the British farmers.

German farmers put their workers up in 3* hotels.

[Jackdaw33]

Don't you just love the luvvies. It's all 'me,me,me' with them. Who gives a flying wotsit about the film 'industry?

[Gromit]

Talbot,
You are missing the point.
Farmers want cheap migrant workers, and those migrant workers are willing to work for paltry amounts to escape their ex-Soviet former lives.
When that workforce goes away, farmers will have to pay better wages to encourage the young British workers to take their place. Result, moreexpensive produce.

[Jackdaw33]

Surely the minimum wage must apply to migrant workers as well as native ones.

[New Judge]

"Well in my industry we are seeing casting calls come through thick and fast now for IRISH actors ( MUST have an Irish passport)..."

Don't they comply with anti-discrimination laws in your industry, then?

[kvalidir]

I believe you can specify what sort of passport people have NJ for the purposes of working, and indeed you can specify gender and ethnicity too in the arts. We often get castings through with ' must have right to work in the US' etc as well x

[New Judge]

"I believe you can specify what sort of passport people have NJ for the purposes of working,.."

Gender and ethnicity I can understand (in the arts), but what sort of passport? So a black man to play Othello with an Irish passport is acceptable but a black man with a UK is not? Perhaps you could enlighten me further.

[kvalidir]

Yes I gather it's all quite legal and that Equity have looked into the matter after droves of complaints. i'm not a legal expert as you obviously know but it;s getting increasingly common because it affects the ease of who can work where. x

[-Talbot-]

Gromit
Talbot, You are missing the point.


I'm not.

[Theland]

Irish actors playing the roles in Eastenders? Wow!
And then every film will be full of diddle diddle music and calling each other eejits? Sure that will go down well!
"Now then! Men of England, begorra, dem feckin eejits tink dey gonna stand up to us? Jeezus Mary mudder of god, dem frenchies tink dey gunna trash dis English army wid are bows an arrers? Well dey got a big surprise! Specially wen we have had a wee fry!"