Was This Church Of England School Right To Ban Rastafarian Dreadlocks?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6161817/Rastafarian-boy-12-wins-discrimination-case-dreadlocks-ban.html

Once more it seems that we have been forced to back down from our rules in English dress code, so as to fit in with other cultures.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38812935

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// It is however, illegal to discriminate against an individual on the grounds of race or
religion. ///

/// It's really easy to say that this is 'England giving in to foregin culture ...' - easy, but
inaccurate. ///

What is your take on this then?

https://www.columbusmagazine.nl/public/images/geo/highlight/2271/new_534567_648_0.jpg

Perfectly acceptable on the continent of Africa, but in UK society?

[SparklyKid]

Weird indeed, would love to hear him recite his maths tables.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - // andy-hughes

/// It is however, illegal to discriminate against an individual on the grounds of race or
religion. ///

/// It's really easy to say that this is 'England giving in to foregin culture ...' - easy, but
inaccurate. ///

What is your take on this then?

https://www.columbusmagazine.nl/public/images/geo/highlight/2271/new_534567_648_0.jpg

Perfectly acceptable on the continent of Africa, but in UK society? //

I am genuinely unsure what point you are making - or what question your are asking here.

Obviously such tribal decoration is acceptable within the indigenous African culture from which this picture was taken.

Is it acceptable here? I have no idea, I have never seen anyone in England with those changes, although some young people do insert discs which distort their earlobes, and that appears to be accepted.

[ToraToraTora]

yes I have seen that FF, though that article seems to be about 50/50. Dreadlocks though are caked in grease, not the same thing.

[jackthehat]

///Dreadlocks though are caked in grease, not the same thing.///

LoL....
The stuff you are referring to is Dread Wax....it is not grease.

Educate yourself;

http://www.dreadlocks.com/facts_rumors.html

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

The point that I am making is although hypothetical, but still valid, if a person was to attend a school (in this instance) and he was refused unless he removed the disc, could they also appeal on the the grounds of race or
religion?

Can't you see the point that I am making, to what extremes can a person of a foreign culture, go to before they become unacceptable, in our western society?

[-Talbot-]

Can't be bothered to read the thread but I guess as usual there will be plenty defending the boy because of his religion.

I don't have a problem with his haircut but I have a problem with the fact that he can have the haircut because of his religion.

If a non-Rastafarian decided on the same haircut...would they now be allowed sport it without any consequences?

[SparklyKid]

If a non-Rastafarian decided on the same haircut...would they now be allowed sport it without any consequences?



Got it in one Talbot,lol.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - // andy-hughes

The point that I am making is although hypothetical, but still valid, if a person was to attend a school (in this instance) and he was refused unless he removed the disc, could they also appeal on the the grounds of race or
religion? //

I don't know enough about this custom to know if is done for religious reasons or not.

So, applying the logic I have used thus far - if it is a cultural, or 'fashion' item, and it contravenes the rules of the school the boy attends, then he can't have it. If it is a part of his religion, and he is required to wear it, then the school would have to decide whether or not to admit him as a pupil.

Actually, that is what the school in the original OP should have done, but they failed so to do.

//Can't you see the point that I am making, to what extremes can a person of a foreign culture, go to before they become unacceptable, in our western society? //

I can't answer that, no-one can - but I have yet to see anyone on the streets of the UK with one of these items in place.

I don't subscribe to the small-minded fear of something different that seems to infect a proportion of our society.

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - // If a non-Rastafarian decided on the same haircut...would they now be allowed sport it without any consequences? //

This has been raised further up the thread - a non-Rastafarian would be wearing dreadlocks as a 'fashion haircut', and that is banned under school rules.

[-Talbot-]

So you would support the obvious discrimination then?

[SparklyKid]

And the wheels on the bus go round and around,lol.

[SparklyKid]

So, applying the logic I have used thus far - if it is a cultural, or 'fashion' item, and it contravenes the rules of the school the boy attends, then he can't have it. If it is a part of his religion, and he is required to wear it, then the school would have to decide whether or not to admit him as a pupil.




Hang on a mo, what happened to the "so" unbreakable rule ?

[AuntLydia]

Andy do you realise how offensive you are by accusing people who just don't like Dreadlocks or disagree with the court's decision, as racists, or small minded people who can't or won't accept people as 'different'.

I have a lot of 'different' people in my family, mixed race, gay and a transgender SIL so it may be good advice to come down off your high horse and realise other people may have had varied lives 'down wit de kidz', perhaps even more so than Interviewing a few musicians.

It is quite normal to dislike and like things because of the things, not what they represent.

[pixie374]

Talbot, it isn't discrimination as all children can have dreadlocks. There are certainly some English students at the local school here with them. You can't have rules unless they are for everyone.

[-Talbot-]

How do you know what the answer to my Q @ 16 53 is, pixie?

If a non-Rastafarian decided on the same haircut...would they now be allowed sport it without any consequences?




andy-hughes says they wouldn't be allowed because it would be a 'fashion haircut'

So you would have a situation where two children would be treated differently...in other words one of them would be discriminated against.

[pixie374]

My daughter (with her ginger hair) once asked at school when told to put her hair up, whether she was allowed to put it in dreadlocks. She was told the school did accept them- they have to, because they are worn in some cultures. They are not allowed different rules for different students.

[-Talbot-]

I'm not sure what you daughters situation has to do with my Q, pixie.

Are you saying all kids at the school in the OP will now be able to have dreadlocks?
How do you know that (if that is what you're saying}