Is This An Acceptable Compromise?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6042765/EU-offer-UK-stay-single-market-goods-without-free-movement.html

[Baldric]

No.

[Old_Geezer]

Unlikely, on it's own. We voted for sovereignty not just the stopping of free movement.

And as the article points out, this would undermine the UK's ability to strike free trade deals around the world.

One has to consider what's offered, but I think we'd need to be fairly desperate.

[youngmafbog]

NO.

[Zacs-Master]

Sounds tentatively good but it's not long since some were saying that France and Germany would block our single market plan.

I'll believe it when it's announced by the EU itself.

[dannyk13]

No, not when they are insisting on this:-
//They want the Prime Minister to pledge that the country will copy all new EU environmental, social and customs rules,//

[Khandro]

Full sovereignty, nothing less!

[sunny-dave]

IF (and that's a big IF) this is true, then it marks the long awaited 'sense of reality' arriving in Brussels - and some recognition of what they have to lose by their continued intransigence.

I think there may be a raft of concessions arriving soon - let's not jump at the the first offer ...

[naomi24]

No compromises. Out.

[Old_Geezer]

What do we want?

We in a Utopian scenario, full independence, a good agreement on tariff free and check free trade, and an open border in Ireland for the sake of the peace EU supporters claim was the main reason that the EEC was formed.

In the real world, maybe expect low tariffs and as little delay checking as one can achieve. Oh, and a decent friendly attitude in the future.

[Old_Geezer]

Nothing's been proved. We aren't allowed to get other deals until we've left so it's all tentative smalltalk at present. No promises.

[youngmafbog]

Interesting if it is true though.

Just think if we had stuck the middle finger (I have a gr avatar handy :-) up to Barnier in the beginning and said we were walking negotiations might have got going sooner.

[Theland]

No. We can do better without them.

[ichkeria]

Something along these lines will happen. Because it is in the interests of both sides.

[sunny-dave]

That's a very good point, ymb - I've been thinking for a good while that "We've done this wrong".

Surely it was up to the EU to make us their 'best offer' (given that they want the wonga to keep flowing after we leave) - which we would then have decided as to whether it was good enough?

Instead we've been humiliated as belly-crawling supplicants, with every offer we make being condescendingly waved away by the supercilious Barnier and Drunko Junko ...

[Garaman]

We both want 'the wonga to keep flowing after we leave'. We would take a massive hit if we lost access to the single market.

[Theland]

And a massive hit to our democracy if we stay in.

[Togo]

This would be an initiative driven not by the EU's chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier, but by German "policy makers. Last year, Germany posted a 159.3 billion euro surplus on its goods trade with other countries in the EU, that's the way it's been since 1958, when Europe's common market opened up. This year looks set to mark another record-high EU trade income for Germany. The surplus during the January-April period was running at an annual rate of 175 billion euro, a 10% increase on the country's EU trades in 2017, according to statistics from Germany's Bundesbank. So it is Germany who has "blinked" first. Guess which of the EU's 27 current members contributes most to this massive trade surplus? Now it is our turn to turn the screws. Tell them sorry not good enough. We will make our own deals with the rest of the world starting with Germany. France will squirm and the Irish howl,( they are due a 4% reduction in payouts when we stop shelling out like a man with no arms) lets see what they have to offer. Why should we allow the pyramid scheme to dictate to us regarding who we are allowed to trade and on what basis? Time for our offensive, which is rather fitting, given that it was the 100th anniversary of the Amiens offensive that finally brought the breakthrough.

[Garaman]

Togo, what would you say to the Japanese car companies who we enticed to the UK? They manufacture cars in the UK for the European market, and rely on frictionless trade.