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Humorous Remark Or Racism?
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naomi24
Dunno...Charles has a great sense of humour, as evidenced by his remark to Anita.
I mean - who wouldn't crack up at that? I myself would roll about on the floor if say, someone approached me and asked whether I got decent Sky reception in my mud hut.
Jokes like these in 2018 are still extremely funny for everyone on the receiving end.
Dunno...Charles has a great sense of humour, as evidenced by his remark to Anita.
I mean - who wouldn't crack up at that? I myself would roll about on the floor if say, someone approached me and asked whether I got decent Sky reception in my mud hut.
Jokes like these in 2018 are still extremely funny for everyone on the receiving end.
naomi24
Yep...I think it's perfectly okay to call out someone who has said something that you don't like.
But what makes the Prince Charles situation difficult is the whole deference thing. In reality, no-one would use the tampon line.
I don't think people should get angry in these situations. Just calmly pull the person aside and tell them why they don't appreciate the comment. I've done this in the past, and it normally leads to a bit of enlightenment.
Yep...I think it's perfectly okay to call out someone who has said something that you don't like.
But what makes the Prince Charles situation difficult is the whole deference thing. In reality, no-one would use the tampon line.
I don't think people should get angry in these situations. Just calmly pull the person aside and tell them why they don't appreciate the comment. I've done this in the past, and it normally leads to a bit of enlightenment.
It’s not offence per se. It’s irritation. Jokes about my skin tone belong to dead 70s comedians (along with mother-in-law jokes).
It’s similar to a large-chested woman who attends a training course with a group of male work colleagues. If she walked into the classroom, and someone shouted, “Blimey - you don’t get many of those to the pound”, whilst the comment isn’t derogatory - it’s still impolite to call it out.
It’s an agreed social convention in the 21st century that unless you’re very good friends with someone, race jokes are pretty much off the table.
It’s similar to a large-chested woman who attends a training course with a group of male work colleagues. If she walked into the classroom, and someone shouted, “Blimey - you don’t get many of those to the pound”, whilst the comment isn’t derogatory - it’s still impolite to call it out.
It’s an agreed social convention in the 21st century that unless you’re very good friends with someone, race jokes are pretty much off the table.
sp, it may have escaped your notice but the only one who has mentioned mud huts is you. I don’t think I am wrong about the shame thing which is why you’re reluctant to explain your sensitivity. I see no reason otherwise for you to take offence when someone else, without being derogatory, shows an interest in your roots. In my experience if a black man/woman is called a ‘black ***’, offence is taken at the word ‘black’, in effect negating the real insult. Black people who look for offence where none is intended are, in my opinion, their own worst enemies.
The corollary of the idea that you shouldn't take offence on behalf of others is that you don't have a right to decide whether or not someone *should* be offended by what they hear. These are personal experiences, shaped by everything that people have gone through their entire life. That provides a context that, by definition, we can't possibly be aware of.
naomi24
“I see no reason otherwise for you to take offence when someone else, without being derogatory, shows an interest in your roots.”
That’s a little naive of you. Prince Charles was making a joke, based on the skin colour of the person he was talking to. It’s a joke which makes no sense, because for it to work, the people of Manchester would have to be almost exclusively white.
I’ve been to Manchester.
They’re not.
The offence/irritation is that there are people in 2018 who still think that black and Asian people will accept 70s jokes about their skin colour.
“I see no reason otherwise for you to take offence when someone else, without being derogatory, shows an interest in your roots.”
That’s a little naive of you. Prince Charles was making a joke, based on the skin colour of the person he was talking to. It’s a joke which makes no sense, because for it to work, the people of Manchester would have to be almost exclusively white.
I’ve been to Manchester.
They’re not.
The offence/irritation is that there are people in 2018 who still think that black and Asian people will accept 70s jokes about their skin colour.
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