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Jahulaye | 19:11 Thu 15th Mar 2018 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5505477/White-House-unveils-new-sanctions-against-Putins-spies.html

“BREAKING NEWS: White House unveils new sanctions against Putin focused on his spies as Trump joins France, Germany and the UK in condemning nerve gas attack and says it 'looks like' Putin was behind it”

“'Something that should never ever happen' said Trump”

Yes because the CIA are a lot more careful and stealthy


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Icheria, views on the shadow government?

Conspiracy theory or fact?

It’s all there if you look hard enough and open your eyes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_government_(conspiracy)



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“Why are you so pro-Russian?“

Wow, another one. Had it been the USA who was suspected of this attack would I have been called anti west? Or just someone who is sick of being lied to by their government as we’ve been dragged through war after war whilst politicians chase their vested interests which aren’t “the people” but multimillion pound arms deals?

Wake up people and smell the Java.
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Let’s not forget oil, precious metals, precious gems and property whilst we’re on the subject.

I did a talk at a university a few weeks ago and the fresh spongelike minds understood very well.

It seems that years of programming and stubbornness has ceased any hope of absorbing the truth even when it’s right before your eyes.
"I did a talk at a university a few weeks ago..."

Cripes.

You've gone into full conspiracy theory orbit now jahulaye, and all I can do is wave helplessly from planet earth.
The answer to 'why can't we send the specimens they have asked for?'
Is that we have done exactly what is demanded under international law.
Chemical weapons are banned under United Nations Convention. International law requires that any accusation of the use of chemical weapons is investigated by the UN. We have complied with that by sending all the evidence to the United Nations, who have the facilities to make an unbiased analysis. Sending the evidence to Russia would be like the police sending the gun used to murder someone back to the gunman and asking if it was his. Russia would just destroy the evidence after saying ''Nothing to do with us''
Evidence coming from the United Nations Chemical Warfare Investigation Unit is going to be a LOT harder to refute.
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“I did a talk at a university a few weeks ago..."

Cripes.

You've gone into full conspiracy theory orbit now jahulaye, and all I can do is wave helplessly from planet earth.”

LOOL, I meant I was a part of a discussion.

(((Waving))) back at you
"Investigation Unit is going to be a LOT harder to refute."

Not by some it won't :-)
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“Evidence coming from the United Nations Chemical Warfare Investigation Unit is going to be a LOT harder to refute.”

All they can do is prove it’s the same compound that’s allegedly only synthesised in Russia but cannot tell you that it’s the same compound from the Russian lab and not a clone synthed in let’s say the U.K., the us or Syria.
And that, I think, is where you are very probably wrong.

Here's a mad thought: suppose the British had done your bidding and sent the sample to Russia? Do you not think that there is at least the teensiest chance that they might have simply claimed that it was "not us guv", as my learned friend Mr Eddie points out above?
Even a chance, mind. That is all I am asking ...
And if they had claimed it was made in Britain, would you have believed them? Be honest now :-)
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“Sending the evidence to Russia would be like the police sending the gun used to murder someone back to the gunman and asking if it was his. Russia would just destroy the evidence after saying ''Nothing to do with us''

This is why you’d send a sample and not all of the evidence.

“And if they had claimed it was made in Britain, would you have believed them? Be honest now :-)”

I’d have to make a decision when/if it happens.

How would the uk know what it is unless they had something to compare it to?
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There’s the chance that Russia requested the evidence as a smokescreen but there’s also the chance that putins out of his head in anger a how any of his guys got hold of this compound when it’s under a lock and key and wants to test it to see whether it came from his lab or was a clone synthed elsewhere.
Jahulya - sorry, but I'm shaking my head sadly. I understand that you feel that you have been backed into a corner and are defending your posts to the last - but ichkeria will confirm that it is rarely that we and others are united on a subject. We are now. The thought that you are spreading your dubious (to say the least) views amongst young and impressionable minds is disturbing.
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“The thought that you are spreading your dubious (to say the least) views amongst young and impressionable minds is disturbing.”

LOOL, I’m the youngest in my class.
Even more disturbing, sorry.
// A quick phone call to MI6 and I'm sure all obstacles would have been smoothed out of his way.//

some russian mole in MI6 would have said
" tovarich, fee veel do the job forr you"

Recollect the hard fact that Revd Ian Paisley said
" The only people who know what is going on in the Foreign Office in London are the KGB in Moscow...."
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“sadly. I understand that you feel that you have been backed into a corner and are defending your posts to the last - but ichkeria will confirm that it is rarely that we and others are united on a subject. We are now. ”

With all due respect I’m just fighting for what I really believe in, we all have opinions and you uniting with your “nemesis” doesn’t necessarily equate to “you, right” “the world, wrong”
Well the Russians have now denied making the Novachov agents - - -
so why do they want a sample
if only to say - - - "well we dont make this, but hey it is quite good so we will start !"
:) ^^^
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// And tell us how you knew. Who's to say that Skripal and his daughter weren't targeted by the British Secret Services //

oh tell him someone - sckripal was a British Agent ! - altho he had a heavu roshan accent

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