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Can This Increase In Crime Be Credited Solely To The Lack Of Police On Our Streets?

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anotheoldgit | 09:33 Fri 21st Jul 2017 | News
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/england-wales-crime-figures-highest-decade-police-violent-murder-rate-ons-office-for-national-a7850391.html

Or dare I suggest it may be partially due of the different cultural standards that we now have in this country?

I say this because in all the recent debates on this subject, many reasons have been put forward ie one parent families (no father figures) Falling Police resources due to Government cuts, Violent video games, cessation of stop and searches, etc, etc.

But nowhere has multiculturalism ever been mentioned, is it because of the fear that the dreaded racist card may be played?

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Zacs-Master

/// Do you seriously believe that anyone who isn't white is classed as 'multicultural'? ///

I would say that if a number of Jamaicans, Africans, Indians, or anyone else with a non white skin moved into a particular area, I would think that it could safely be classed as a multicultural area.

Better give up now on this one, you are beginning to look silly.
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Mamyalynne

/// There are a multitude of reasons for changes in crime rates, a good number have been mentioned here today and there are many other reasons that haven't been touched on. ///

At last, exactly what I am getting at, and why haven't they been touched on?

Sensitivity reasons I suspect.

By the way Mam, try not to do your dirty washing in public? :0)
AOG, we're talking about crime, not people moving into an area (I think you might be confused with another current post on here). Your exact words were 'The only way that these crimes can't be blamed on Multiculturalism, is if all their killers where from the White indigenous population.'

No mention of people moving into an area.

Did you actually realise that people can be non white and as British as you or I? If you did then the words I've quoted definitely put you in the frame for looking silly.
Ta for the laundry tip AO.
'why haven't they been touched on?'

They haven't been touched on because they're not the reason. They're no doubt a contributory factor but your attempt to lay the blame on multiculturalism belies your prejudice AOG.
Well, why haven't they been touched on?


We could start a list of all the many causes of crime or what may push someone into crime - it would be a very long list and one we couldn't solve at the end of it because we are merely spectators and not Government or Lawmakers.
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Zacs-Master

/// They're no doubt a contributory factor ///

At last you have admitted it, so we can now agree.

/// but your attempt to lay the blame on multiculturalism belies your prejudice AOG. ///

Since you have already admitted it that Multiculturalism is partly to blame, then we have apparent both laid out our prejudices, if criticism of certain foreigners can be called a prejudice, or are they specially protected from any criticism aimed at them?
AOG, you we're laying ALL the blame on multiculturalism. You see, that's prejudice (preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience). My opinion that it is probably partly to blame is probably fact.

See the difference?
By the way, you've dodge my question:

Do you seriously believe that anyone who isn't white is classed as 'multicultural'?
I think it's waaaaaaaaay down on the list of contributing factors, at least.
Agreed jim.
AOG

You stated earlier:

//I mean these same people also think one is racist if one criticises Muslims.//

If by 'one' you're referring to yourself, it's not the reason why people think you hold racist views.

It's because you actually do hold racist views. For instance, you have said that you wouldn't like a black family moving in next door to you because you don't like loud reggae music and barbecues.

That's a racist view, because you are attributing way of behaviour based solely on race.

Do you see that?

It would be equally ageist if I said that I don't want elderly people living next door to me, because of ridiculous stereotypes.
I think ANOTHEOLDGIT uses "one" instead of "you" meaning folk in general but then he uses "you" in a general sense in the same sentence as if he is confused about the correct use.
The simple answer to your question is - no.

Crime is a social phenomenon, and as such, is not affected 'solely' by anything - but by a vast and complex array of factors.

This complexity allows anyone with a specific view to put forward, to find statistics and evidence that will support it.


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Zacs-Master

Read what I actually said not what you would have liked me to say.

Here is what I put:

Or dare I suggest it may be partially due of the different cultural standards that we now have in this country?

If you don't know what PARTIALLY means I would suggest that you look it up in a dictionary.
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Zacs-Master

/// Do you seriously believe that anyone who isn't white is classed as 'multicultural'? ///

Yes if they are black and come from say Nigeria and reside in this country to join others who are from a different culture. then they would of course be part of the multicultural build up of this country.
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sp1814

You continue to drag that old chestnut out once again.

It is not racist to hold a particular preference of who one would prefer to live next door to one, due to their perceived lifestyle.

Would it be racist to report a black family to the authorities, if they did in fact move next door to one, and did play loud Reggie music into the early hours of the morning?

Yes one could say that a white family could do exactly the same, but due to the clash of cultures it is better to safe than sorry.

It has been said many times before it is not about race but culture.

Why do you think that the white population of certain areas have moved out simply because persons from other cultures have move into those areas, are they also racist?
Where are these "certain areas" with no white folk in them?
//Where are these "certain areas" with no white folk in them?//

Here's one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savile_Town
The ever reliable Rod Liddle:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/06/how-on-earth-was-it-that-a-suicide-bomber-issued-from-savile-town-in-dewsbury/

Jolly hockey sticks, girls! (Not you, Ms Dawood)

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