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ludwig | 12:45 Fri 18th Nov 2016 | News
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..will an angry electorate deliver yet another shock result in the form of a Labour victory at the next election in order to punish the Tories that a) gave them the referendum in the first place for purely self serving reasons and then b) Conspired to weasel their way out of implementing the result when it turned out to be the one they weren't expecting ?

Anything seems possible in these unpredictable times.
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Surely the most likely result would be a UKIP landslide ?
Apart from the fact that Labour, as a political party, is washed up, I can't see that happening anyway. Labour will be very happy if the government weasels out of Brexit. They didn't want it either.
Corbyn wanted it, May didn't. Funny old world.
Brexit is very, very complicated. Not to understand, but actually to do.
If it's happened by the next election it's likely to have been a car crash -
If it hasn't happened it will get the ukipprrs etc incandescent.
The longer it takes the less relevant the referendum will have been
It's a hell of a mess one way or another. And shows the folly of holding a referendum.
Impossible to say what will happen at the next election
It's been pointed out that for the first time in living memory none of us has a clue who the next PM is going to be, assuming it won't be Corbyn
jno, yes, Corbyn wanted it - but he followed the party line.
Why not? Labour as a political party is indeed "washed up", objectively, but would the people really care about that if the Government was perceived to have fouled up so badly?

There will be reverse sour grapes overload if it does not happen.
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// Surely the most likely result would be a UKIP landslide //

You'd think so, but I can see all the lapsed Labour voters just going back to them as the most obvious way of getting rid of the Tories.

// Labour will be very happy if the government weasels out of Brexit. They didn't want it either. //

Corbyn's anti EU. He was dragged kicking and screaming (well, grumbling and sulking) into the remain campaign.
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// Surely the most likely result would be a UKIP landslide //

You'd think so, but I can see all the lapsed Labour voters just going back to them as the most obvious way of getting rid of the Tories.

// Labour will be very happy if the government weasels out of Brexit. They didn't want it either. //

Corbyn's anti EU. He was dragged kicking and screaming (well, grumbling and sulking) into the remain campaign.
Ludwig, //Corbyn's anti EU. He was dragged kicking and screaming (well, grumbling and sulking) into the remain campaign. //

See my post at 12:09. Not quite as succinctly worded as yours, but in agreement nevertheless. ;o)
In 10 years time , when brexit has still not happened , we will have a referendum to rejoin the EU
The electoral system Jim quite simply.
I can't see Corbyn winning the seats in the places he needs to achieve that. Including Scotland
Well, not just the electoral system : apart from his good self, you've got Diane Abbot, John McDonnell and Emily Thornberry in the top three cabinet posts just now and maybe still in 2020. I'd be hard pressed to think of a triumvirate of greater evil in the eyes of Middle Britain :-)
What sort of foul-up ...

Bazile, according to the French PM, Europe is at risk of breaking apart.

http://news.sky.com/story/french-pm-europe-at-risk-of-breaking-apart-10660257

Perhaps we should get going while the going is good.
It may well be that the electoral system locks Labour out all the same. Still, the thing about public anger is that it's directed at the current lot, regardless of who they are. I don't know if this would be enough to tip things in Corbyn's favour or not, and anyway there are still over three years to go until the next election, barring a highly unlikely early election.

Too early to say, in other words, but there are certainly scenarios in which Labour break through again in 2020.
UKIP landslide?? 51.9 percent of the referendum vote was for Leave of whom allegedly a few only voted that way to try and make the result less emphatic the other way. How many of those would be dyed in the wool enough to switch their allegiance to a UKIP who'd be in god knows what state by 2020.
Given the likely consequences of Brexit would be in all probability be hitting a wee bit harder, and life and the debate in any case having moved on to who knows what.
In short UKIP landslide impossible.
People in the south punish the tories by voting Lib Dem or dare I say it UKIP
Those are the people Labour needs as well as the Scots if they are still there
If parliament is obstructive, which I think it will be, and Brexit doesn’t happen, I suspect the electorate will, quite rightly, blame the ‘obstructers’ (who will come in all flavours) rather than the government per se.
Do you honestly think the UK is going to go down due to the Brexit? I doubt it very much, I'm sure there are a few more countries waiting and ready to follow.
Referendums are not folly, but the basic right of the people to be heard. Any folly was in not making it legally binding nor having a decent timetable specified.

Yes UKIP landslide. Most leavers who already vote for them would again as the job would not be finished. Others who didn't vote for them but who realise that is the only way the democratic will of the people is likely to be upheld, will also. Even some remainers who realise that upholding democracy is more important that a single vote would also. That alone would put many constituencies over the line to elect the UKIP candidate, but given that those who chose to vote for a different candidate are split along political lines, that block will not agree on who should be elected instead. In short a UKIP landslide is most likely.

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