Better Send Some Sour Grapes To Ni

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-37796836

[dannyk13]

Maybe they can team up with Scotland and form a new country Iresco and re-apply to join the EU as one.

[youngmafbog]

Must be running out by now TTT

[chanel5]

As a citizen of Northern Ireland, I can tell you that we have had a lot to have "sour grapes" about, where Britain is concerned, over the last 800 years!

[Togo]

No explanation coming then?^^ Do give us reasons for the sentiment.

[Old_Geezer]

Some people should be charged with wasting the court's time.

[Old_Geezer]

IMO some mix up having issues with the ruling elite, with having issues with the people of Britain. Certainly in my lifetime Britain as a whole has made best efforts to quell troubles that arise.

[ichkeria]

"Maybe they can team up with Scotland and form a new country Iresco and re-apply to join the EU as one. "

There's a rather more obvious solution: we team up with the republic and become Ireland. I can't see that happening in the near future, but with just about everyone in NI eligible for an Irish and therefore EU passport it's hard to see how this result cements NI's place in any future UK.

[Togo]

There may be an answer there ichy, are not the people of N.I. mainly of Scottish descent? Perhaps that explains a lot.

[ichkeria]

A lot of the presbyterians are, yes.
They were the probably mainly the ones who voted to leave though

[New Judge]

Regrettably this is just another manifestation of the ridiculous “devolution” process instigated by Mr Blair. It was always going to engender division and rancour and this is just another example of why that is true. Three is no reason why the relatively small population of Northern Ireland should thwart the wishes of the 17m+ people across the UK who voted to leave. If they really want to remain in an EU country (and good luck to them if they are foolish enough to want to do so) all they have to do is move to the south.

[ichkeria]

You make life seem so easy NJ :-)

[Togo]

//You make life seem so easy NJ :-) //

Ahh ichy but life was so much easier when the collective psyche was a common sense solution to social issues. Now the lawyers and professional agitators have such things in their claws, and have no material gain in solution, only conflict serves them.

[ichkeria]

Not sure the entire "Remain" population of N Ireland upping sticks and going south is particularly realistic
That was what I was referring to.
It wouldn't be the first time such dubious solutions had been suggested for NI

[Togo]

Well they just don't seem to have got along to well in the past by being together. I think canal5 said it was 800 years, .....long enough.

[ichkeria]

chanel5 I think?
I think we're getting on ok these days, largely.
As chanel possibly implies, one reason for the strife is a bit of mishief by British colonisers in the past, so suggesting we should simply relocate to solve all the unpleasantness always seems like a bit of a damn cheek to me.

[Togo]

Oy ichy I'm the kid who kidded Billy the Kid. I have worked with men from different villages just outside Dublin who would, and could have murdered each other.

[New Judge]

“…so suggesting we should simply relocate to solve all the unpleasantness always seems like a bit of a damn cheek to me.”

No more of a damn cheek than suggesting that the 440,000 or so who voted in Northern Ireland to remain should somehow override the votes of more than 17m (including around 350,000 in NI) who voted to leave, Ikky. There’s no other practical solution. Those who feel so unhappy and unsettled about leaving the EU will have to move elsewhere if they want to remain within it. The UK has voted to leave; NI (along with Scotland, and Acacia Avenue down my way who I also understand had a majority of “Leavers”) was part of that vote and some of them are disappointed. Constantly harping on about small constituent parts of the UK voting against Brexit are not at all helpful. There should be no unpleasantness. A UK-wide referendum was held on the UK's membership of the EU and the Brexiteers held sway. If NI feels so strongly that its interests are not best served by being part of the UK the answer is simple: start an independence movement and secure a referendum as did the SNP (which they lost). Otherwise, so long as NI remains part of the UK, it will have to abide by decisions which are taken for all of the UK, as will Scotland and Acacia Avenue.

[ichkeria]

What will actually happen I suspect is that NI will effect timely remain in the EU to all Brent's and purposes.
Two parts of the UK voted to remain, and while the overall figure was in favour of leave, by own view is that is not good enough
It occurs to me that 'sour grapes' is not the right term anyway. Would that not mean an attitude of 'well the EU is rubbish and we never wanted to stay anyway"
??

[ichkeria]

All intents

[ichkeria]

Haven't you also suggested before now NJ that the peace process is NI should be undone or words to that effect?
Or have you quietly now dropped that idea?