Is This Photo Amazing Or Whats Your Take On It?

[piggynose]

well what do you think? Media URL: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36759711
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[naomi24]

Gromit, I’m saying that the picture does not represent what it is purported to represent – and it doesn’t. .

Incidentally, I’ve heard it said that Leonardo da Vinci was, himself, the model for the Mona Lisa. Where that leaves him with regard to lifestyle is anyone’s guess. ;o)

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// AOG

Technically what you're doing is called 'trolling' ///

Please explain, because in this instance I appear to be not so technically minded as you appear to be?

[retrocop]

The Face Book page that Naomi posted paints a better picture than any photograph I can see here.
Read it and educate yourself with some very disturbing home truths about who are real culprits. This black Americans cops comments can be echoed in this country and many others also.

[naomi24]

Retrocop, Talbot posted that initially. I simply re-posted it for the benefit of those who missed it, or ignored it, the first time.

[retrocop]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/11/dallas-police-chiefs-own-son-died-in-shootout-with-officers-duri/?ref=yfp

This is another story from a Black cop. His own son justifiably killed by fellow cops. Don't hear him protesting just because he is black. His brother killed by drug dealers. No prizes for guessing where they come from!!

[retrocop]

Thanks Naomi for reposting it and Thanks Talbot. I would of missed the original.
Just posted a link that explains a few truths from the Dallas Police Commissioner on Black deaths.

[naomi24]

retrocop, What a very dignified man – and what a pity people like him are not perceived as role models rather than enemies.

[sp1814]

naomi24

Unless he has used his position to unlawfully kill someone, I doubt very much he would be perceived as an 'enemy'.

What I think a lot of people are missing is that America has a pretty grim history when it comes to the treatment of black people. The pictures we see today are way too reminiscent of Alabama in the 60s

If people perceive that certain police forces or individual officers lack professionalism when dealing with black people, that's a huge problem - because the police need the support of the communities they serve.

Did you read the article about the white fella who was pulled over with a loaded shotgun, had a chat with the cops and was waved on his way?

Did you see any of these stories:

http://usuncut.com/black-lives-matter/armed-white-people-survive-cops/

They may be atypical, but if people get the sense that these are indicative of the way black and white people are treated differently by law enforcement officers in the States, eventually resentment will give way to protest.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Did you read the article about the white fella who was pulled over with a loaded shotgun, had a chat with the cops and was waved on his way? ///

Could the answer be, because white people and black people have a different way of reacting when approached by the police.

Did you read the Face Book page that Talbot posted later to be repeated by Naomi?

[Bazile]

Good grief

Quite apart from the photograph ; what's clear is that there are some on here who have a certain opinion about certain sections of society , which they are quite happy to expouse forcefully ; whenever a topic of this nature comes up .

Any other opinion is in their view , clearly incorrect

[-Talbot-]

What is clear is that certain posters will not acknowledge what the the VERY BRAVE black officers has to say. They choose to ignore him.

Why?

[Mamyalynne]

Interesting point Bazile - as I commented last night night, the photo concentrates the mind and makes one think.

The words of the Police Officer were as I described them earlier.

It is perfectly easy to have views on both without having a label stuck to ones forehead.

[anneasquith]

I know B. It's quite sad really. :'(

[Gromit]

I agree with Mamyalynne,

It is possible to view the photo and the writing of the black police officer as both excellent. They are not contradictory, the are complimentary. Both are valid, and in their different mediums both are worthy of praise.

[retrocop]

SP
Did you actually read Talbot's link. The black officer clearly states
He is perceived
as the enemy. Even a black on black
non police shooting he attends he is spat on by blacks as he rolls out the crime scene tape and asking for witnesses he is tod to F off because we aint no snitches. Even a black cop realises
A humongous attitude problem and trouble of their own making. The cop acknowledges most crimes are by blacks.

[-Talbot-]

anneasquith
I know B. It's quite sad really. :'(



Have you commented on both the picture and the literature, Anne?

If not, why not?

[Gromit]

// I’m saying that the picture does not represent what it is purported to represent – and it doesn’t. //

Every photograph is just a capture of a fraction of a second. What comes before it, and what comes after it, does not matter to the photograph. In this instance, just for that split second, the photo sums up one aspect of the story, an heavily armed police force and a defenceless victim.
We can argue, that that is not the case in every victim of a police shooting, but that is the narative these protests are about, and the picture captures it succinctly.

[naomi24]

Gromit, //Every photograph is just a capture of a fraction of a second. What comes before it, and what comes after it, does not matter to the photograph.//

When a picture is used by the media to create a false impression it matters.

//an heavily armed police force and a defenceless victim.//

This wasn’t a defenceless victim. This woman was one member of a large group of people who were demonstrating and blocking the road. She chose to place herself in the position she was in.

SP, retrocop asks “Did you actually read Talbot's link?” Did you?

[Gromit]

Naomi,
I repeat, you are not judging the photograph, you are giving your opinion on what you know.

// This wasn’t a defenceless victim. This woman was one member of a large group of people who were demonstrating and blocking the road. She chose to place herself in the position she was in. //

In the photo she is alone. She is unarmed and clutching a mobile phone. You may have other information which taints your view, but in terms of acessing the merit of the picture itself, that is irrelevent.

[naomi24]

Gromit, //You may have other information which taints your view,//

Anyone who takes the trouble to read the link has access to the information. You seem to be skipping from one thing to another. You’re talking about ‘these protests’ and then saying that “in terms of acessing [sic] the merit of the picture itself, that is irrelevent.[sic]”. What are you talking about? The demonstration, the false impression the picture gives, or the artistic merits of the photograph? You’ve lost me.