I Could Not Love Thee Dear So Much, Lov’D I Not Honour More.

[sandyRoe]

How could this chap have got his priorities so wrong>


http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/man-lets-daughter-drown-rather-than-let-strange-men-touch-her/ar-BBlD5LS

[naomi24]

divebuddy, I agree. Very odd.

steg, some Muslim women swim in burkas.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// As I have already pointed out, I take issue with Ratter's viewpoint only. ///

Oh so to say that a fellow ABers viewpoint which happens to oppose yours is the most simplistic uneducated unfounded glib and pointless response, is not being insulting to that ABer.

Fine words Andy, decorate it how you please, but to me you were insulting the intelligence of RATTER.

[steg]

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naomi24
divebuddy, I agree. Very odd.

steg, some Muslim women swim in burkas.
10:31 Tue 11th Aug 2015Report
Was she?

[naomi24]

steg, no idea.

[Mamyalynne]

Irrespective of religion,a father should be strong and caring and do everything in his power to protect his children, even at the cost of his own safety - he didn't.


Terrible situation.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //andy-hughes

/// As I have already pointed out, I take issue with Ratter's viewpoint only. ///

Oh so to say that a fellow ABers viewpoint which happens to oppose yours is the most simplistic uneducated unfounded glib and pointless response, is not being insulting to that ABer.

Fine words Andy, decorate it how you please, but to me you were insulting the intelligence of RATTER.//

Noted.

[anotheoldgit]

Hypognosis

/// Sikhism has already been mentioned. Three more shouldn't be hard to find, for the subcontinent region. ///

To be fair to the apologists, it does only state that he was Asian, so it now makes it a lot easier for them for me to state that the description Asian cast a much larger net than just the subcontinent of India, it also includes China etc, etc.

[gness]

I find this as sickening and unfathomable as the Cavan Orphanage fire where the arrogant and narrow minded nuns....in loco parentis......were instrumental in the deaths of thirty five young girls.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //To be fair to the apologists, it does only state that he was Asian, so it now makes it a lot easier for them for me to state that the description Asian cast a much larger net than just the subcontinent of India, it also includes China etc, etc. //

Who are 'the apologists'?

I see no evidence that anyone has made any excuse for this man's behaviour, based on his faith, or indeed anything else.

[andy-hughes]

Further information - quote from examiner.com

//The official religion of the United Arab Emirates is Islam; the majority of UAE nationals are Muslim, and for many, strict religious beliefs play a major role in every component of life. The site al-islam.org, in giving written interpretation of the Quran, writes: “Body contact is not allowed with one whom it is not allowed to look at, and every kind of touching of the body to any part of the other one’s body is haram (forbidden by Allah) and one must refrain from this; unless it is from on top of the clothing and it is without the intention of lust.”//

So it would appear - although is still not confirmed - that the father was a Muslim, but it also appears, tragically, that being saved by the lifeguards would not have dishonoured his daughter according to the tenets of the Koran.

[naomi24]

//one must refrain from this; unless it is from on top of the clothing //

So if a girl is in swimwear it's right that she is allowed to drown. What a sensible piece of advice! How anyone can defend Islam in any way is utterly beyond me.

[Mamyalynne]

Whatever this man's reasons for his action were, he's a failure as a father.

[trt]

## So being saved by the lifeguards would not have dishonoured his daughter according to the tenets of the Koran. ##

Spot on Andy,

In his ignorant mind, he was probably thinking that Allah was going to appear from the sky, and sweep up his daughter for him!

What a waste of life.

[sandyRoe]

Medical treatments or even dentistry for their daughters must be problematic for such fathers.

[sp1814]

Was this bloke a Muslim?

Serious question. If anyone has a link confirming this, then please post.

Also, are we to believe that if this man is indeed a Muslim, then this kind of attitude is par for the course for followers of Islam?

I ask, because to me - the fact that this story has made the papers suggests this is 'remarkable'.

Tell you what - all those who know, or work with Muslims - ask them what they would do in similar circumstances.

I'm not sure that this fella's beliefs are commonly held. I could be wrong, but I somehow doubt it...

[naomi24]

Even more of a problem for the daughters of such fathers.

[naomi24]

^That was to sandyRoe.

[sp1814]

AOG

Define 'apologists'.

Just so I can understand what you mean.

I think I know, but I'm loathe to make an invalid assumption.

[naomi24]

sp1814, // I'm not sure that this fella's beliefs are commonly held.//

Quite common in some societies.