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agchristie | 23:23 Thu 06th Nov 2014 | News
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Appears at court today but what of the charges he faces? The 'uniform' charge is bizarre to say the least. Short video in the link where Golding outlines the situation.

https://www.britainfirst.org/video-britain-first-leader-paul-golding-speaks-essex-court-today/

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mikey, the mosque is being built on a car park adjacent to the station, which is a key commuting point for workers in London. as well as the loss of that facility, the local council has arranged a deal with the train company for the mosque to block-buy nearly 80 spaces in their own car park. thus aside from the disruption of the building work itself, the resultant...
11:57 Sun 09th Nov 2014
Thanks for pointing out my ambiguous phraseology, Ichkeria.
The word "only" was meant as "the single part of", not connote "neglible" or "inconsequential". I apologise for any offence I may have unwittingly caused.
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Zacs,

The point I was making was that I noticed that despite you 'following the thread with interest', you had not commented after over 130 posts. Nothing sinister about that and you are perfectly at liberty just to observe, though this is not your usual style?

Regarding my supposed 'being a little cryptic', I don't understand that comment. You cannot speak for all when you mention some sort of 'imaginary trap I may be setting'. I can confirm that there was no intention here to induce some sort of paranoia!

Hope thats clarified? Now, to the questions:-

A) Do I support the BF?

Not sure in what context you mean [i]support] but in the sense of exercising their right to free speech, marching, demonstrating and it is lawful, then yes, as I would do with any organisation.

B) Do I support the BF's actions in this instance?

Yes, I agree with Golding's assertion that he went to the area not to cause harassment, but to 'out' an Al Qaeda operative as a matter of public interest.

C) Do I think the BF's existence is justified by these 'outings'?

The BF is a patriotic political party whose existence is not dependent on sole visits of this sort. It is not that shallow. I have outlined in previous posts concerning campaigns on various issues around the country, most notably in Rotherham for example.

D) Do I believe Golding should face trial?

I have not suggested that he shouldn't in my OP. My view is that on the available facts he will be acquitted on both counts. The count of wearing a uniform has not found a single declared assenter on here. Again, my view is that it is an absurd charge. I have not said there isn't a case to answer but I believe Golding will be cleared.

Your comments welcome.

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V_E - thanks for your well considered post. I think you have summed up the situation well and I knew what you were alluding to before the clarification towards the end.

As I have said previously, the BF are standing at the forthcoming election on the controversial issue of the mosque that has massive opposition among the locals. Some commuters are also up in arms. There are those who don't see the need for another mosque in the area and others complaining about a lack of parking.

Party thinking is not too dissimilar in many areas to Ukip on big issues that matter most to the public, EU membership, immigration. BF feel strongly about corrupt politicians, muslim grooming gangs and much more where Britain is concerned.

On all the major issues there is little difference in policy areas between Ukip/BF. The former have the momentum and whilst the Tories/Lab are treading water, Farage is full steam ahead. What a General Election we have on our hands...
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Ichkeria - of course social media doesn't translate into votes at elections and the BF realises it is not going to pull up any trees but whatever you make of it half a million people have acknowledged numerous issues.

Why aren't people bothering much with the big players who barely have half that of Ukip? Even Ukip have only 280,000 followers on FB.
If the size of the following on FB is to be a reliable indicator then God help us.
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Blackadder - the way things are going generally God help us. The state of politics for some time has been dire. Today was another example, EU membership, I won't go there....
"half a million people have acknowledged numerous issues.
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Most of them bogus, if the Facebook page is anything to go by :-)

"On all the major issues there is little difference in policy areas between Ukip/BF."

Don't let Uncle Nige hear you say that.. UKIP are the respectable lot now

I remain confident, I hope not naively, that we'll survive this apparent surge in popularity for the far right and BF will go the way of the Natioanl Front, EDL, BNP (their progenitors et al)
Extremism as a rule doesn't survive too well in Britain, as the 1930s (eventually) proved. Much of Europe succumbed, but we ended up fighting it
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Ichkeria - BF will be back marching in Rochester to resume the campaign. The leftwing anti BF have already stated their intent saying the gloves are off and they have already made several threats including to petrol bomb the candidate, Jayda Fransen.

What a disgrace, BF will pursue their democratic right and will be undeterred by the thugs who seek to seek to cause serious problems and prevent them reaching the High Street.
I think as far as I am concerned the BF and the anti-BF are different sides of the same coin that the people - and certainly the police in Rochester, could well do without.
Coming from N Ireland I am well aware of how one extreme feeds off the other.
AG, Unlike some, I don't spend the whole day on here and I would rather watt ha thread develope until i see a reasonable juncture to comment. Thanks for your responses, some of which are a bit waffly especially b) and c). It has served the purpose of me being able to judge your opinions more accurately, so thanks again.
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Zacs, I averaged five lines each which was fair enough for the nature of the questions? I'm not sure that would constitute being 'a bit waffly'!

Anyway, glad to have cleared things up!
Do you support the BF was a VERY simple question but you chose to waffle about one particular aspect rather than give an unequivocal answer. And c) is very shallow and requires a simple yes/ no answer.
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Is BF not merely Face Book for the dyslexic?
My point too DB.
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Zacs, I disagree, your first question was ambiguous. The second is misleading as the BF doesn't exist solely on the basis of what you suggest.

Divebuddy, I am aware of my responses, how others interpret them is a matter for them.
You're losing AB credibility now Ag. They were very simple questions which required very simple answers. Your unwillingness to give said answers is rather perplexing and does you no credit.
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If that's your opinion Zacs I can live with that.

Divebuddy, I've been accused of being cryptic, it's catching. What do you mean?
I agree with Zacs and DB here. As BF is a seriously far right fascist and racist organization, I would be very careful about associating myself with them in any way. You wouldn't support the National Front or the BNP, so why give succour to BF ?

Proceed with caution agchristie !

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