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mikey4444 | 13:20 Fri 16th May 2014 | News
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27437973.

But I expect Mr Farage will just say that it is a one off and isn't very important. This is just a few days after Sanya-Jeet Thandi, a rising student star of Ukip's youth organisation denounced him as a racist and quit the party.
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Incidentally, how do our resident UKIP supporters feel about Sanya Jeet Thandi? She was one of the leaders of UKIP's youth wing, spoke at their conference, and was hailed as a rising star by Farage. Now she has turned her back on the party on the grounds that she things large numbers of racists have gotten into the party....
17:31 Fri 16th May 2014
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No NJ, you are pretty much on the button ! I too forecasted that the coalition government of 2010 would descend into the shambles that it has. To be honest, it is taking nothing away from your or my intellect to have foreseen this...it was obvious to anybody if they had but thought about it.

The great danger, as you say, is that votes for Labour and the Tories will be somewhat depleted by the votes that people waste on UKIP. It will affect the Tories more than Labour, which may ensure that a Tory defeat is even more likely than at present. If the Tories are defeated, then a Labour victory, perhaps with the aid of A N Other will then proceed. So another 5 years of omni-shambles is on the horizon

But my central theme has always been that UKIP cannot and will not form the next Government at Westminster. They may get a seat or two but even that is not expected by the Polling organisations or the Bookies, who are seldom wrong.

I don't know if you mix with ordinary working-class people but I do on a daily basis and I am hearing that lots will be voting UKIP in May 2015. But none of those people have any idea whatsoever what else UKIP appear to be standing for, apart from their constant whinging about racist matters.

The blind leading the blind it would seem.
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K is right here.

I am getting fed up with being told that "UKIP speaks for the silent majority" or words to that effect. Can I remind everybody that all the Polls ever done, have put UKIP support at about 15%. In other words, 85% of people Polled do not support UKIP ! Where is the silent majority in this ?

Empty vessels make the most noise.
It will affect the Tories more than Labour

Not according to your mate it won't. He thinks it will affect Labour more.

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YMB...the "large percentage " of the population is not going to vote UKIP !
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Roy...read and inwardly digest this link from Electoral Analysis :::

http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

Especially the "Can the Conservatives win? " bit.
No.It is not the blind leading the blind.UKIP are constantly campaigning about immigration issues.This is what the working class and others wish to hear.They do not wish to see the other parties sweep THE PROBLEM under the carpet.Labour created the problem and the coalition don't have the unity to solve it.It is not a racist issue .It is an immigration issue that many people are concerned with!!
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Roy...those "many people" that you refer to don't appear to concern themselves with immigration issues enough to admit to Pollsters that they are contemplating voting for UKIP next May.

Anyway, even if this was the real concern that you say it is, what would be the point in voting for a party that is never going to win an election and be able to do something about the situation ?

That is the thrust of my post concerning UKIP...the votes are wasted because they are going to lose in May 2015. Any UKIP votes will be swept up by the cleaners the morning after the election and consigned to history, along with all the other loony-tunes.
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The above was meant for retrocop cop...sorry roy !...getting my r's in a muddle.
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Retrocop...."This is what the working class and others wish to hear"

Really ?

What ONLY immigration ? What about education, health, transport, defence, cost-of-living ? Don't these issues affect people's everyday lives ?

What are UKIP's policies on those subjects ? Do YOU know ?
I'm amazed (and slightly amused) at the amount of time and energy you waste posting about a supposed non entity, mikey.
Anyway he thinks lots of the Labour voters who will be supporting UKIP in the euro election will stick with them come 2015...

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Roy and others...have a look at SP's post of 14:25 today...still think that they represent the Voice of the Working Class ?
|Of course these other issues affect the lives of the electorate.Thats because education,health,housing,water,utilities,crime are all seriously being affected by almost mass uncontrolled immigration.We are being swamped,the infrastructure is barely able to cope.Immigration is a major cause and UKIP are the only party to have the guts to stand up and support the best interests of my country.
I don't suppose a large number of Welsh have come into England recently to have their cancer treatment more speedily dealt with because the Welsh NHS can't cope with the excess numbers of growing patients due to immigration.Hell no.How racist of me to think that.Curb immigration and much of this countries problems are alleviated.
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You are showing your true colours now retro...blame everything on the immigrant !
I don't blame it ALL on the immigrant.I also blame Mr Blair,Brown and the Labour government who allowed it to happen.
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Retrocop....your words :::

"Thats because education,health,housing,water,utilities,crime are ALL seriously being affected by almost mass uncontrolled immigration"
(my capitals )
ALL(my capitals) the issues aforementioned are being seriously affected by immigration as stated.
Yes I always show my true colours.I don't live a lie or under any false pretence.
"...apart from their constant whinging about racist matters. "

Mikey, it surely cannot be racist for a nation to want to control who is and is not allowed to settle within its borders (one of the key UKIP policies). If you do believe this then we may as well cease our debate !!! :-)
Hi there NJ

we need your help over in Rape.

er - I mean we need your opinion in Mikey's other thread concerning the conviction of Stuart Hall in one count of rape and one to which he pleaded guilty....
Incidentally, how do our resident UKIP supporters feel about Sanya Jeet Thandi?

She was one of the leaders of UKIP's youth wing, spoke at their conference, and was hailed as a rising star by Farage. Now she has turned her back on the party on the grounds that she things large numbers of racists have gotten into the party.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10828481/British-Asian-Ukip-youth-leader-quits-racist-and-terrifying-Ukip.html

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