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emmie | 12:38 Mon 17th Feb 2014 | News
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i read this piece the other day and wondered how on earth we ever got to the point where it exists at all. I am well aware it's been discussed before.
How can they stamp this out in one generation?


http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news/islington_leading_the_charge_on_eliminating_female_genital_mutilation_1_3315989
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absolutely agree on the jailing part. get tough, it's time they did.
Also, I think it's good that the practice has been re-named as FGM. Formerly it was called 'female circumcision', which makes any of us, who were not fully aware of the procedure, think of it as being a minor operation, equivalent to male circumcision.

...which it isn't.
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no it certainly isn't, and those of a squeamish nature don't look it up,
barbaric it is. I have been told there are variations on FGM, but any idea that you cut the clitoris, or any part of the Labia, is nauseating
// UN calls for global ban on female circumcision

Dec 20, 2012
UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.N. General Assembly unanimously approved a resolution Thursday calling for a global ban on female genital mutilation, a centuries-old practice stemming from the belief that circumcising girls controls women's sexuality and enhances fertility. //
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can see that working.
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and astonishing to me that it exists at all, and some coming from France to the UK to have it done, according to that link.
The more attention is focused on the issue, the more effort is put into outreach education programmes, the more likely it is that you can stamp out the problem.

So it is a good thing that the UN and the EU have recently announced major initiatives to raise awareness of the practice. Legal restrictions and jail time are all very well, but this is a cultural/religious issue, and if you want to stamp out the practice within a generation then that will require cultural changes, through education and information and outreach, to change the hearts and minds within tribal heartlands. That requires co-ordinated international initiatives.
No reason why you shouldn't call circumcision male genital mutilation, sp1814,because it is, though I've never met any male who was traumatised by it. I've no idea why it's done either.

Anyway, smoking hasn't been stamped out in a generation but it's been greatly reduced, and attitudes to it have changed dramatically - 50 years ago few people could have cared less. So it is possible to change people's minds on things (though smoking is of course public, FGM is not).
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the cutting of females is not remotely like circumcision, i don't agree with that either. Cultural practices like this we have inherited, should be absolutely stamped out.
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it was the person in the Islington gazette article i linked to said it will be stamped out within one generation, can't see that happening at all.
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/// this isn't something like a bruise which is on the surface. ///

I admit that I know very little about this disgusting and barbaric practice but I would have though it could be noticed 'on the surface' and that they would not have to seek parental consent if the child had to medically examined during a visit or admission to a hospital or GP.

LazyGun's superb 12.33 post addresses most of what I mean, only better.
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AOG, no it won't show, not unless she ends up in hospital.


Female genital mutilation (FGM), also known as female genital cutting and female circumcision, is defined by the World Health Organization (WHO) as "all procedures that involve partial or total removal of the external female genitalia or other injury to the female genital organs for non-medical reasons."[2] FGM is practised as a cultural ritual by ethnic groups in 27 countries in sub-Saharan and Northeast Africa, and to a lesser extent in Asia, the Middle East and within immigrant communities elsewhere.[8] It is typically carried out, with or without anaesthesia, by a traditional circumciser using a knife or razor.[9] The age of the girls varies from weeks after birth to puberty; in half the countries for which figures were available in 2013, most girls were cut before the age of five.
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What's your issue with male circumcision???
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i don't like it, i think that the baby, child is given no choice in the matter, and i don't think that its healthier, overall i wouldn't have it done on any child.
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Blimey...I mean...I'm quite shocked at that.
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why?
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its seem to be done in many cases for religious, cultural reasons, what are the reasons to have it done.
Ive signed many petitions on the FGM I think it should also be illegal to circumcise males as well unless there is a medical reason.

They need to start locking up the parents of these children but to my knowledge I don't think anybody has ever been convicted of it in the UK, I may be wrong.
I'm surprised because there's so many arguments in favour of male circumcision, but very few in favour of FGM. I believe it muddies the water to see any equivalency in the practices.
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the types as i have listed are completely and utterly different, and no one in their right mind would advocate cutting little girls this way, it can and does destroy the sensation of sexual pleasure, and can be incredibly painful for the rest of the girls life. Whilst circumcision for boys isn't done specially so they can't feel sexual pleasure, if it was it would never be allowed.

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