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Nissan To Reconsider Uk Production If We Leave The Eu
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If Nissan are saying this out loud ahead of time how many other big manufacturers are considering it privately?
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Doesn't this give the lie to those who say we could just leave with no consequences?
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Doesn't this give the lie to those who say we could just leave with no consequences?
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.......and when we offer them a deal they'll stay, you seem to be under the impression that business gives a rats ar5se about politics.
Business may not want us to leave the EU but only because they think they are financially better off in the EU. Once independent UK can change the game by offering all sorts of advantages to companies here. Jake and his ilk do all their calculations based on the status quo, not the possibilities.
Once free of the shackles of socialism UK will be well placed to offer the world of business very attractive deals to come/stay here.
Business may not want us to leave the EU but only because they think they are financially better off in the EU. Once independent UK can change the game by offering all sorts of advantages to companies here. Jake and his ilk do all their calculations based on the status quo, not the possibilities.
Once free of the shackles of socialism UK will be well placed to offer the world of business very attractive deals to come/stay here.
I think TTT's comments are very revealing
//Business may not want us to leave the EU but only because they think they are financially better off in the EU.//
Yup Businesses think we are better off in the EU - Businesses that provide us with Jobs and drive the economy
Free of Socialism? - So British businesses prefer to be in the EU because they think they're better off there under Socialism?
How does that work exactly?
Muddlebrain (apt moniker) wants to be governed by people we elect - I suggest a complaint to their European MP - Oh Right!
Isn't the point here that the resistance is all founded on myths and misaprehensions.
there's some sort of vision that the EU is full of French and Germans Socialists (no Brits there at all apparently) Stealthilly robbing British people and giving our money to French farmers to grow straight bananas!
I'd understand these if we were a small country
The fact is that Britain and Germany have very similar political outlooks and are two of the three largest EU members.
If we actually grew up a bit and played a proper part Germany and Britain would dominate the EU and make it into a real political powerhouse.
//Business may not want us to leave the EU but only because they think they are financially better off in the EU.//
Yup Businesses think we are better off in the EU - Businesses that provide us with Jobs and drive the economy
Free of Socialism? - So British businesses prefer to be in the EU because they think they're better off there under Socialism?
How does that work exactly?
Muddlebrain (apt moniker) wants to be governed by people we elect - I suggest a complaint to their European MP - Oh Right!
Isn't the point here that the resistance is all founded on myths and misaprehensions.
there's some sort of vision that the EU is full of French and Germans Socialists (no Brits there at all apparently) Stealthilly robbing British people and giving our money to French farmers to grow straight bananas!
I'd understand these if we were a small country
The fact is that Britain and Germany have very similar political outlooks and are two of the three largest EU members.
If we actually grew up a bit and played a proper part Germany and Britain would dominate the EU and make it into a real political powerhouse.
"If we actually grew up a bit and played a proper part Germany and Britain would dominate the EU and make it into a real political powerhouse.
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dream on......the eussr has only one aim and ulterior motive and that is to ultimately dominate and enslave the member countries...if you really think that they will let the UK which will ultimately just become a north western province in their master plan of a superstate/empire to dominate in any way or form then you really are seriously deluded and thats being polite....
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dream on......the eussr has only one aim and ulterior motive and that is to ultimately dominate and enslave the member countries...if you really think that they will let the UK which will ultimately just become a north western province in their master plan of a superstate/empire to dominate in any way or form then you really are seriously deluded and thats being polite....
"Isn't the point here that the resistance is all founded on myths and misaprehensions. " - perhaps Isn't it true that the supporters of the EU are basically anti British and have no faith in our abilities and as such think the only way is to hand control over to a bunch of nepostitic foriegners? Is it not also true that they think that the UK would not change and adapt to any new circumstances?
"there's some sort of vision that the EU is full of French and Germans Socialists (no Brits there at all apparently) Stealthilly robbing British people and giving our money to French farmers to grow straight bananas! "
That is basically what we see, CAP/CFP?? We are one of the few net contributors, all we ever et is shafted. Baz is correct when he calls it the EUSSR.
"there's some sort of vision that the EU is full of French and Germans Socialists (no Brits there at all apparently) Stealthilly robbing British people and giving our money to French farmers to grow straight bananas! "
That is basically what we see, CAP/CFP?? We are one of the few net contributors, all we ever et is shafted. Baz is correct when he calls it the EUSSR.
I must say I have very mixed feelings about the EU but the hysterical claims made by some "antis" really don't help their case much. People who say that the EU is an "evil empire" or compare it to the pre-glasnost Soviet Union sound rather like ill-informed crackpot conspiracy theorists.
There are valid lines of criticism for the EU - e.g. the dual immigration policy that it commits us to, its level of democracy, and questions about its competence and ability to reach decisions.
There are valid lines of criticism for the EU - e.g. the dual immigration policy that it commits us to, its level of democracy, and questions about its competence and ability to reach decisions.
""UK which will ultimately just become a north western province in their master plan of a superstate/empire"
How do you know this, baz? "
i know it the same way others on here say we wont !
even as we are they cant stop from foisting laws , dictats, banning things etc etc etc on us on a virtually daily basis....you really think theyll let up once they have complete control and dominance over this country !?...yeah right , dream on
How do you know this, baz? "
i know it the same way others on here say we wont !
even as we are they cant stop from foisting laws , dictats, banning things etc etc etc on us on a virtually daily basis....you really think theyll let up once they have complete control and dominance over this country !?...yeah right , dream on
Baz
"i know it the same way others on here say we wont ! "
I'm sorry, I don't understand what this means.
" they cant stop from foisting laws , dictats, banning things etc etc etc on us on a virtually daily basis.."
It seems to me like most EU laws essentially replace legislation that our parliament would otherwise have to pass itself - mostly concerning trade. I don't find that very threatening.
"i know it the same way others on here say we wont ! "
I'm sorry, I don't understand what this means.
" they cant stop from foisting laws , dictats, banning things etc etc etc on us on a virtually daily basis.."
It seems to me like most EU laws essentially replace legislation that our parliament would otherwise have to pass itself - mostly concerning trade. I don't find that very threatening.
Baz,we weren't talking specifically of the USA, we are talking of the "eussr", which suggests total ownership by the state of all means of production, as in the USSR. I do not see the similarity between communism and capitalism. I do, however see a similarity between capitalist federalism, as in the USA, and the EU as seen by its founders (an ambition yet to be realised, but evidently feared by opponents of the EU). Now, how do the words 'enslave' and 'dominate' apply to the states of the US and their government?
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