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sandyRoe | 19:45 Fri 13th Sep 2013 | News
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A young man named Antoin Akpom is stabbed and the following night a house is firebombed and a mother with her three children die in the blaze.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24076859
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naomi24

/// Craft, I wish I’d have stayed away today too! ///

Then why didn't you, when you only spend your time dishing out false accusations of racism at myself.

/// Deciding what colour a person is by the sound of their voice? ///

This was in reply to accents, and it is a fact that one can sometimes notice a persons origin or race from their accent, London, Newcastle, India, black, Chinese etc etc. but this is only a loose generalisation because you can get some black/Asian/Chinese people who come from say Birmingham that speak in a fluent Brummie accent.

/// Choosing between black and white athletes? ///

This again was testing sp1814's allegiance to British teams, black or white.

/// Normal people just don’t think like that. Unbelievable!! ///

And 'NORMAL' people don't look into all things as racist, get a life.

But why I should waste my time explaining things to the likes of you, but maybe perhaps it may make the more balanced ABer understand.
AOG

Re: the athletics question. I support Team UK. If Team UK isn't represented in an event, I don't bother watching it.

If Team UK is competing in an even where Jamaica is also represented, I support Team UK, but if Jamaica wins I also celebrate, because that's where my family is from. If Team UK wins, then I also celebrate.

It's having two bites of the cherry.

What you, and formerly Norman Tebbit seem to be suggesting (correct me if I'm wrong) is that black and Asian Brits are not loyal to the country.

Is that what you mean?

Would you say that to the many young black British men and women currently serving in the forces?

Would you say that to Beharry Johnson?

Is he not British?
just for the record, someone suggested these isles were only inhabited a relatively short time ago, we are not talking of the Romans, Normans, Vikings either, this is from wiki, the whole piece is too long to print, but you get the idea. of course it's unlikely that one can take their ancestry back so far, but at least there were humans of one type or another in Britain. I believe there is a test you can take involving taking DNA
sample if one wanted to trace one's lineage, some may be shocked as to where that could possibly be, Asia, Africa, crossing over into Nordic lands, people did travel far and wide after all.


Britain has been intermittently inhabited by members of the Homo genus for hundreds of thousands of years, and by Homo sapiens for tens of thousands of years. DNA analysis has shown that modern humans arrived in Britain at least 25,000 years ago, before the end of the last glacial period. This evidence also shows that as the last glacial period encroached from the north, the first humans living in Britain then retreated to Southern Europe when much of the continental land mass of Britain became covered with ice or frozen as tundra.
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whilst some have got their proverbial knickers in a twist over words, NJ response does seem rather a strange one coming from someone who is usually so careful. However someone on here said they wouldn't be bothered if the white British were in the minority, so it works both ways.


this was a gruesome crime, and people are dead, that should have been the main part of the post, story. Not sure why it got into a slanging match
Is your allegiance with a black Briton or a white Briton, ANOTHEOLDGIT?
AOG, I used to think I was 'pure British stock' because my father did not tell me that his father was an Irish immigrant who in turn came from a line of immigrant/invaders from the low countries.
A pale skin doesn't prove anything, having ancestors that arrived in Britain before sp doesn't make you more British unless we go into counting generations, which raises another lot of questions.
is going off topic and being rude a pre-requisite of posting in this section?!
AOG, I have a life – one that fortunately enables me to form judgement from rather more than the colour of a person’s skin. I’m not easily shocked – but you, today, have shocked me.

fair summing up i would say,

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/British

i always believed that the British in Britain were from Scotland, Ireland, Wales and England. It doesn't make mention of colour as far as i can see, nor i remember.
sp1814 - why are you always so abrasive and notably argumentative. Clearly you have decided to deviate from the original topic here.

If you need to play the racist card why don't you use your own thread - or better still use a different website?

A reminder of the AB site rule which clearly states: do not post material that discriminates on grounds of race, gender, age or religion, nor link to websites that do so. Yes, it says 'nor link to websites that do so'.

You well and truly contravened that.
sir.prize

What the dickens are you talking about?

If AOG is allowed to argue a point, am I not allowed to respond?

And what website are you referring to?
sp has a perfectly valid point. He's not playing the race card he's asking for an explanation.
sir.prize

Regarding deviation from the subject, please look at the first page of this thread.

The question was about the arson attack.

I didn't bring nationality into it, New Judge, bazwillrun and Snafu03 did.

Furthermore, are you REALLY suggesting that I should delete my AnswerBank account???

Really?

What an odd thing to say.

Because you don't agree with my argument...rather than ignoring the thread which you obviously have no interest in, instead, you will read through the thread and suggest I take my business to another site.

Ha ha ha...

No, seriously...brilliant.

Just...brilliant.
sp1814 you ask - What the dickens are you talking about?

Well, you have clearly deviated from sandy's original question.

Also posted inappropriate link - not relative to the OP.

You also ask: ///And what website are you referring to?///

Any site you wish that allows racist comments. Surely you can find one.
naomi24

/// AOG, I have a life – one that fortunately enables me to form judgement from rather more than the colour of a person’s skin. I’m not easily shocked – but you, today, have shocked me. ///

I swore to myself that I would no longer join in debate with you, but this has made me alter my decision, because i cannot allow you or anyone else fopr that matter to twist my my words into things i have not said or even suggested.

Please supply the points that I have made that have shocked your all so delicate system, and not just those that were in defence of my Britishness brought on by others who demand to be called British but who on the other hand are always criticising the British (even the whites) and their way of life,
suggest this spat has gone on too long, i can see the thread being pulled.. and wouldn't want to see that happen.

i have linked to an update on the case, it would appear the two incidents were unconnected.
Maybe there should be different types of passport - "A Wee Bit British/Not As British As Most/British/So British, When I Fart, It's To The Tune Of The National Anthem" that sort of thing...
sp1814 - oh dear. What do the AB rules say about capital letters within a comment?

Where did I suggest you close your AB account? I suggested could use a different site for racist issues. You really are an antagonist.

Go argue with yourself - I am away.
The poor father of the family killed is a neurosurgeon, the second doctor within a year to loose his family this way :(
rocky

also said the woman was a doctor, but wasn't currently working..

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