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Asylumn Seeker Who Has Been Offered A Place At Oxford Is Told His Family Must Return To Their Country.

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anotheoldgit | 13:33 Thu 22nd Aug 2013 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2399842/Asylum-seeker-secured-straight-As-A-level-winning-place-Oxford--family-refused-permission-stay-Britain.html

Whilst doing exceptionally well with his studies in his short time in England, (for which he must be very much praised), is there any reason why his family should also be granted permission to stay?

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To get into Oxford, even straight A*s may not be enough. There's an interview. This candidate would have impressed the panel with his past history alone. It shows an aptitude for study, quickness of learning, and determination, apart from any other attributes they'd look for in an Oxford man
Here's a young man who came to the UK with little or no English but within a couple of years had acquired such fluency in it that he could study, and get top grades, in Maths and physics.
That, in itself, should be enough to impress any selection panel.
My point is Fred, that he must have obtained grades in History, Geography, English Lang, Eng lit, physics, chemistry, maths and maybe more...all in 2 years......now that is VERY impressive.
Why must he?

He will be studying Physics at Oriel...
Sqad, we don't know what GCSE exams he passed nor where he got them. It could even be that he just took A levels, being an exceptional talent. Oxford is more impressed by A levels than GCSE and he was in exceptional circumstance. You or I, made X years younger, would have had to have had good GCSEs to even get considered or even allowed A levels; my school chucked everyone, who didn't et six O levels, out of the school !
I thought it was Wadham College....but i may be mistaken.
Fred.....yes.....maybe.
AOG,
I took it from the link that they originate from Iran but sought asylum from Syria, hence my reasoning that they return there once hostilities have ended.
They obviously left Iran for a reason for Syria so it seems odd that they have to be deported to Afghanistan.

I tend to err with Sqad, it does appear astounding that someone learns English from scratch and gains Oxford entry examination results, all within 2 years.
/an A* in maths and A in chemistry and physics/

Those aren't particularly impressive. My business partner's son has just achieved better but is going to King's London having been turned down by Oxford.

Oxford's objective is to be a word class centre of excellence in study and research in competition with Cambridge, MIT, Harvard etc

So they have their own way of scrutinising applicants and have the pick of many exceptional candidates.

Clearly, they think this guy is brilliant at Maths and Physics and will have him regardless of what GCSEs he has or hasn't passed
Zeuhl

\\\\\Clearly, they think this guy is brilliant at Maths and Physics and will have him regardless of what GCSEs he has or hasn't passed\\\

That would seem to be the answer.
sqad indeed

there is another aspect to Oxford entry that my partner could articulate better due to his recent family experience but he's on holiday ...

From memory, it's something about them looking for aspects of character that will facilitate a student thriving and growing in that rather rarefied atmosphere

That's why the college stay and interviews are so crucial at Oxford
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ChillDoub

/// They obviously left Iran for a reason for Syria so it seems odd that they have to be deported to Afghanistan. ///

Am I being rather Cynical into believing that they stood more chance gaining asylum in Britain if they said they were from war torn Syria?

/// Muhammad, 18, is of Afghan descent but was born in Iran and grew up in Syria - which is now being torn apart in a brutal civil war. ///

Perhaps they have to be deported to Afghanistan because they are Afghan nationals?




Aog, any excuse not to answer a question as usual,
Instead of making an issue of a bit of gentle ribbing, why not tell us why he should be allowed to stay, when his family, have been turned down for Asylum, which must now make them, and him illegals?
no.
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Baldric

/// why not tell us why he should be allowed to stay, when his family, have been turned down for Asylum, which must now make them, and him
illegals? ///

Where have I said he should be allowed to stay?

But since you ask he can apply for a students visa, but his family is an all too different matter, they should be deported.

I would have thought that I had already made my view known, by asking the question "is there any reason why his family should also be granted permission to stay"

But why wait for a response from me, you generally twist my words so as to get the answer you yourself is looking for.
Agreed, AOG. You do get unfairly treated on this site sometimes (only sometimes, mind!).

Oxford and Cambridge always look beyond exams. They want more than a swot who is good at exams. After all, their courses are more testing than A levels, so, on a purely intellectual level, they are looking for someone capable of far more than that. If an Einstein or an F R Leavis turns up, they would hope to spot the extra quality of mind. Otherwise, they are looking for a rounded intellect, someone who can answer frivolous questions such as ; a real example; "Do animals have rights?", answers to which demonstrate a flexibility of mind and an intelligence in an instant response. Try answering that one when you are hoping to read something other than philosophy!

This young man may have been adjudged to fall into the first category, but may also have been in the second.
None at all.

And an example of this;
///But why wait for a response from me, you generally twist my words so as to get the answer you yourself is looking for///
would be what aog?
No.

The student's good grades and the offer of a place at Oxford are a totally different matter to the validity of an asylum request for the family.
// sqad - There is more to this than meets the eye. 2years learning English, straight A's and then offered a place at Oxford... Bit odd don't you think? //

Didn't Assad go to OxBridge? Depends how and by whom he was educated in Syria. His ecucation may have been English based all his life.

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