Why Can't People Manage On £500 Per Week?

[magsmay]

So - the Cap on Benefits will commence, along with a chorus of moaning minnies who say they can't possibly manage and will have to cut down on food and heating -so bloody what!!! If two working people had the misfortune of one of them losing their job they would have to cut down until things got better - your weekly cheque is a benefit For Funks Sake not a wage - Some WORKING couples barely clear £500 after off takes -this makes my blood boil -people these days are like spoilt children when they get their sweeties taken away - Quote from one moaning minnie this a.m. on TV '' I've tried to get work in the past but for me its not an option'' -then suck it up madam- if you want the State to provide for you then cut down and budget like the working families have to.

[Purple_Popple]

I would to on £500 squid per week :)

[pizza]

Mother not working,her and two eldest kids with the latest mobile phones, all the kids( to two different dads) aged 5/7/9/11 sat playing on x boxes/playstations in their spare time and we wonder why the dispespect and attitude comes from! big plasma 40" in the lounge and mum smoking like a chimney when not in p.c world!!
Surely days out and quality family time are more beneficial and this is my Daughter and family.
House is always a mess and so disorganised yet she has all day to get sorted when the kids are at school.
Love them all to bits,yet annoys me so much the money wasted in that household.

[Purple_Popple]

I would love to be on £500 :)

[marje]

I believe that housing benefits are going to be paid direct to the claimants in future which I think could be a mistake.

[jackthehat]

Thanks for sharing, pizza.........but I'm not sure how that pertains to the OP.

[emmie]

pizza, whilst the majority are not like that. I know someone that you described but she was a lazy cow, but i haven't come across any others who are, were.

[MadMen]

Lucky daughter to have a Dad like you. Posting all her personal info on a public internet forum!

[jim360]

Well perhaps it's going too far em - even so, if you expect the people to pick up the full bill for the poor, then you will end up with a far greater level of poverty and far more poor people.

[MadMen]

HB being paid directly to the claimaint is nothing new.
My landlord was only telling me the other day how 95% of his tenants get their HB paid directly into their accounts.... and then they're short of money come rent day.
Of course, you cannot tar everyone with the same brush, but I think paying rent directly to the tenant is more often than not, a mistake.

[Svejk]

///I've looked at the link thank you Naomi, I suggest you do likewise, as that link bears me out. ///
Sharingan doesn't have maths as part of her home schooling.

[MadMen]

Lol. You can look out now! :P

[Sharingan]

Note for purple_popple- when I post it's under MY account 'Sharingan', if my father ever posts again here it will be under his account 'Nox'- it's quite a simple situation to grasp is it not?
Back to what we should be discussing if that's okay?
One reason that many tenants prefer to have their housing benefit paid to them is that a lot of agents and landlords will not accept housing benefit claimants because there is already a cap put on the rent they pay which is often already far less than the asking rent. Paying direct to the landlord in all cases would mean that many people would simply never get tenancies in the first place except with landlords who target them, the housing often being poor quality and in 'bad' areas. You will create ghettos from which lots of children will never emerge if benefits are further capped.

[LazyGun]

This link is to a BBC report summarising the effect of the new caps across the different regions of the UK, based upon DWPs own figures;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21706978?ocid=socialflow_facebook_bbcnews

[Sharingan]

Apparently yours isn't great either Svejk, we were talking about rents being around £3,000 per month and the effect of that on housing benefit claims were we not? If you bother to look and not just cherry pick the very cheapest rents to suit your own agenda you will find that many 2 and 3 be properties far exceed that amount. Does that help you at all?

[Svejk]

Phew, looks like I got away with that one, madmen.:P

[sue11]

Hi Lazygun and jim360, thank you for the link Lazygun. Yes the darwinism views that I am stating are at the extreme end of the scale and can have uncomfortable comparisons with nazism which is something that would be pretty horrific to consider!
I saw the TV interview with the lady who had her benefits cut by £90 that I guess it the same one that magsmay is quoting. She has 3 children and is going to find it a struggle to support her lifestyle as it is now. I can see that it is incredibly hard for those in a position that they do not deserve to be in, but where do we draw the line at giving support?
Life is tough, did anyone see the recent documentary where they took various families living on the same street through the years, starting from 1900 and going up to 1970? Back in 1900 there was no social to support people and it showed one of the men having to walk the streets every day looking for work. He went out early in the day and did not return until late and took what work was given to him on a particular day.
I am not saying we should return to that type of society, but perhaps we have taken it too far with the level of support that is provided?
Interesting discussion, thank you for all the views!

[Svejk]

Quite right, Sharingan. If we cherry pick the most expensive properties.

[MadMen]

" except with landlords who target them, the housing often being poor quality and in 'bad' areas. You will create ghettos from which lots of children will never emerge if benefits are further capped."

Seriously?
You cannot make sweeping statements like that, without either having first hand experience, or factual links to back it up.

Svejk, think again, my friend. Think again ;)

[Sharingan]

We could meet in the middle Svejk and stop tearing chunks out of each other and just accept that many do and some don't, don't you think? Is there really a need for this to always being so personal, can't we just debate and discuss things normally? I'm honestly not cherry picking, just have a good look, we were discussing benefit caps, in this context what I posted made perfect sense.

[Sharingan]

Again Madmen, just google any old estate agent you like, or look on a property portal like Zoopla or right move and click randomly on rental properties, most are 'No benefit claimants'- it's really tgime consuming having to constantly provide links to what is absolutely common knowledge- how many links will keep you happy?