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Has The Welfare System Created A Monster?

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anotheoldgit | 10:33 Wed 03rd Apr 2013 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2303071/Michael-Philpotts-story-shows-pervasiveness-evil-born-welfare-dependency.html

Do you agree that the welfare system, the concept of which at first was a blessing, has now created a monster, as has been shown in this tragic case?

It has created a completely different species of human being, as has been shown with the various individuals interviews over this case, they tend to have a different look from the norm, so much so that some are have even been given a name, 'CHAVs'.

These are not the usual 'poor', in fact there are many who live in council houses, (now called social housing) who may not be 'well off' but are decent hard working people, who not only take a pride in themselves but also tend to live to a certain standard of morals.

/// Philpott had also fathered another six children by three other women. As far as can be known, he never contributed so much as a penny towards the upkeep of any of these 17 children, all of whom were born into dependency on state benefits. ///

/// His story throws into surreal relief the row between the Tories and Labour this week about Iain Duncan Smith’s much-needed benefit reforms. While the Left and the Church cry that they are unfair and immoral, the Government argues calmly that what is immoral is leaving families such as Michael Philpott’s to languish on benefits for generations. ///

/// Indeed, Philpott never even attempted to find a job. The children owed their existence to his desire to milk the welfare system. ///

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no i don't believe they can, sins of the father and all that. They are blameless in all this mess.
humber...you are correct of course...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303086/Mick-Philpotts-Derby-house-depravity-Giant-TVs-snooker-room-children-barely-fed.html

Cop that lot.......it's not their fault, but cannot see any of those contributing much to society.
Expert on child behaviour now are we Sqad?
Helen...no ...expertise in Child Psychiatry not needed her........just common sense.
OK well I hope you are around long enough to be proved wrong.
anotheoldgit, it what way is "different from the norm" the same as "completely different species of human being" and if there ARE different species, why is one not a mutant?

LOL....no thanks......time is running out for lovable sqad.
I wouldn't class Philpott as one of our heroes. In the article I read he deserted the army after 11 months service.
If as a pensioner people think I'm a scrounger I'm quite happy to live on my private pension (all paid for by me) and forgo the state pension, so long as the government reimburses all my NI contributions.
whether or not their life chances were limited sqad - let alone the behaviors they saw modelled around them - it's still six dead children and its wrong
crafty......me too...glad that i banged into pension plans, but i am still seething from Gordon Brown creaming the top of my pension pot to keep the public sector workers pensions going.
humber...yes....I agree.
Pensioners are not excluded from the benefit scrounger category. My mum is 76 years old and has never worked a day in her life, she was not supported by anyone other than her parents before they died and my dad before he divorced the old witch back in 1970, and the state. She is in no way alone in this lifestyle amongst the same age group. You only have to look to some of the dumping ground towns to see this all the time.
craft, don't think it was a compliment. so he deserted after 11 months, surprised it took him that long.
daffy, did your mothers not look after children and look after a home ?
daffy....great.....tell her that she is living off NI and taxes paid by sqad and the % of his hard earned and saved pension plans donated by Gordon Brown.

I feel rather "superior" now...................
No she didn't anne, we were brought up by the state mainly after my mum did several prison sentences for dishonesty offences and theft, we were also taken into care after she abandoned us (more than one occasion) and at other times she got bored of us and demanded they take us away.... all 7 of us.
Sqad, I haven't spoken to my scumbag mother for several years and have no intention of ever doing so again.
daffy, i have a totally different story, first i worked all my life, as did my mother, as did her mother, as did her mother, so not sure how one can label all pensioners in that way. My mother got nothing when her and my father were divorced, he was a bstard, she wouldn't have taken it anyway.
She worked hard, raised 4 children, and only ever asked the state for help when she simply couldn't work any more.
daphy....LOL.....OK....give that a miss then.

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