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Does this country need a general Strike?

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anotheoldgit | 11:44 Sun 21st Oct 2012 | News
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http://www.dailymail....ity-march-London.html

I see the 'RED PLEBS' were out in force in London yesterday, Red flags flying high.

I wonder if any one of them could actually come up with a solution to the present problems that we now find this country in?

Do they really think that by giving every public sector job back, and to carry on borrowing in the time trusted Labour way, would make everything go away?

Even their guest speaker Miliband could not give them such promises, so they booed him, and yet cheered the Unions idea for a General Strike.

What was apparent out of all this however was the fact that some irresponsible parents took their young children along, I suppose they would have been the first to complain had any of them had been injured if things turned a little heated.
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barney, ask the Labour Party, they seem to try and do it at every opportunity.
Baldric, DT and AOG,

Perhaps you could gather 150,000 of your friends to turn out in support of the Austerity Cuts and gather in London. It is a relatively small number, so should be esy for you to arrange.
Answer the question, where did your figure of just a tadge under the trrillion come from, gromit. Yes Thatch and Major did start many of the initiatives, the so called Labour party went off the deep end to finance Blair social re-engineering.
I don't think for one moment that anyone is in favour of the cuts, but unlike the brainwashed party faithful, we at least know, and accept, the cause of the problem and understand the need to try and repair the situation, the flag wavers will most likely strike at some stage and cause yet more damage to the Country, but obviously no blame will be attached to them as they were simply, blindly, following the orders of their masters and their duty to the Red Flag.
Put it to the vote here....and I bet folk would vote down general strikes and militant action. You are just hell bent on a left wing Britain, even a communist one.
Indigenous or immigration is not the matter here. We have what we have and have to live with it.....through history, the UK has always been funded with immigration. A major difference between AOG and myself.
"Aog thinks that our economic woes are principally because we have too many people" Discuss.

Aog, please tell us what the optimum population is.
Not quite true, Gromit. The idea that the deficit has been caused by bailing out "greedy bankers" is a myth which should be but rarely is challenged.

I think it is widely accepted that it was only from 2008 onwards that the taxpayer had to pay huge sums as a result of the banking crisis. However, long before then, the government ran a large deficit which had absolutely nothing to do with bankers.

Public taxes and spending ran a surplus from 1947 to 1974. In the 33 years between 1975 and 2007 the government ran a deficit for twenty six of those years. In the years 1993 to 2007 that deficit ran at an average of about 37% of GDP (I don't have the GDP figures prior to that without looking them up separately but I've no reason to believe the figures are much different). Furthermore, even disregarding money spent of financial intervention, since 2008 the deficit has increased from £30bn to £110bn in 2010 reducing only to £92bn in 2011. Some of the figures are here:

https://docs.google.c...VQazZUcWc&hl=en#gid=2

The UK has been living considerably beyond its means for about 40 years now. The banking crisis was not the primary cause. All it was was the straw that broke the came's back and it simnply emphasised that fact and forced politicians of all parties, at long last and long overdue, to tackle the problem. It's about time the myth that the banking crisis was the cause of so much debt was well and truly debunked once and for all.

If the unions want the nation to continue to borrow to meet current account spending they need to put up some candidates for Westminster who propose to do just that. None of the major parties seem prepared to enter the next election on that ticket (though the proof of the pudding, etc.) and nor do most of the electorate.
DT,

You have posted a link to a wikipedia page which does not show ANY Government debt due to borrowing to bail out the banks. Does nonE exist. Was the bailout imaginery? If you dispute my figure, why don't you counter with one you believe. I do not believe it was zero.
So are you shooting from the hip, gromit?

I can respond (and with evidence) but I want you to answer where did you find that figure first.

Also New Judge has raised some very relevant points which destroy your red-glassed view that Labour were so perfect......
(the current National debt is £1,2 trillion by the way - just google the National Debt counter and you can watch it grow - but that is not my evidence).
My AB is showing an advertisement for the Unison Trade Union. Not the best placed ad juding from the comments beneath it
//spot any differences?//

protesters children aren't wearing a collar and tie?

Hague is some kind of evidence you can get less weird as you get older??
I exaggerate - just under 1.1 trillion. You can watch it here

http://www.debtbombshell.com/
DT,

National Audit Office / HM Treasury.

Page 2. The bottom line December 2009, £995(Bn).

http://www.nao.org.uk...31d24bc445&version=-1
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FredPuli43

/// Aog, please tell us what the optimum population is. ///

I am no statistician, but anyone who can take their head out of the sand long enough, would soon find that we have far too many people for the limited amount of infrastructure we have available for them.
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humbersloop

//spot any differences?//

/// protesters children aren't wearing a collar and tie? ///

Very observant, your 'rose tinted specs' are not too bad then?
Of course the country needs a general strike, the sooner the country gets in really deep sh1t the sooner the population will co-operate to get out of it.

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