After Nine Years Of A Tory Government

[TheDevil]

Child poverty is +50%
Food bank use is +1000 %
Homelessness is +170 %
NHS waiting lists are +70%
Police numbers are -20%
Crime is +30%
Local gov funding is -50%
Public sector pay is -15%.

I'll wait for people to say "Yeah but at least Boris isn't a terrorist sympathiser" or something negative about Tony Blair.

[dannyk13]

TheDevil // I have no interest in supporting The Sun newspaper's website traffic.//
How about the BBC?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50567979

[shoota]

Whether those figures are true or not is irrelevant.
The fact is that all 'austerity' measures were, and are, necessary to repair the damage done by Labour to the economy with their flawed policies and socialist ideals.
Boom and bust - the Blues boom and the Reds bust.

[TheDevil]

Dannyk13 - "How about the BBC?"

Yes, much more my preferred avenue.

[Togo]

//Sorry DannyK13, I have no interest in supporting The Sun newspaper's website traffic.// 12:47

//DeskDiary, have you read the Manifesto?// 12:52

Haha.. An empty mind is apt to change frequently and without warning. Just like agent Cob's.

[TheDevil]

Togo, the manifesto is available on multiple outlets. I did not read the manifesto on The Sun website.

[dannyk13]

TheDevil, // Yes, much more my preferred avenue.//
Which is saying the same as the Sun.

[TheDevil]

https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Real-Change-Labour-Manifesto-2019.pdf

[zebo]

"born with a silver spoon in his mouth"

Neither Blair nor Corbyn were born into poverty. Who was the last Labour PM from a working class, whatever that means, background?

[TheDevil]

Dannyk13 - "Which is saying the same as the Sun."

My objection isn't what The Sun is saying, it's The Sun in general. I would rather give my time and website traffic to the BBC.

Everyone should try to boycott The Sun.

[Zacs-Master]

Let's just examine Champagne Socialist JC:
He's called Jeremy. His childhood nickname was 'Jelly'. he has a brother called Piers.
He has another brother who's an astrophysicist and meteorologist.
He grew up in Kington St Michael, in Wiltshire, and then at Yew Tree Manor in Chetwynd Aston where he went to to Castle House prep school.
His father was an Electrical Engineer and his Mother Naomi studied science at London University (in the 1930s!). She died died, aged 72, in 1987, leaving an estate of £236,333.
His Man of the people home in Islington is worth £1m.

Average Joe.....come on, pull the other one!

[THECORBYLOON]

FF what figures do you have for child poverty and which measure is being used?

[dannyk13]

However you look at it, your statement that Corbyn supports the working class is debunked by both the Un and the BBC.

[Sqad]

the Devil/diddlydoo

I do understand your points and some people want an "average Joe " to lead them and some couldn't care less, as long as he does his job and on December 12th the choice will be demonstrates.

I don't know if your statistics are correct, but i suspect that they are,
HOWEVER,,I was brought up in the 40's,a teenager in the 60's and "Dad" was a Union man (NUR) we were poor (lived in the poor area of the town) "Dad worked shifts on the railway and money was scarce.

At that time, i never experienced any homelessness(but there must have been) I never saw a food bank and the poor were whinging then 1948. In came the NHS , the welfare state and since then, we have experienced what is now called poverty and the appearance of food banks.
so what has happened in those 70 years?
The poor are still whinging, the homeless prefer to live outside and the incidence of mental health, particularly the young is a prominent feature of our society.

Nothing to do with the public schools, toffs or the privileged, society has failed badly over those years.

I am sick of hearing about more money for the health service, more money for schools, help for the poor and food banks........it ha NO effect on me at all.

[fiction-factory]

TCL, I cant look it up now but Fullfact org then look at new measure, rates.

[dannyk13]

Corby; re Child poverty:-
https://cpag.org.uk/child-poverty/measuring-poverty

[THECORBYLOON]

From fullfact.org,

"Since 2010, the proportion of children in relative low income households have generally risen, while those in absolute low income have mainly stayed the same."

[Togo]

// I did not read the manifesto on The Sun website.//

Then why should anyone read a link provided by you? A link that is usually from an organisation that is hiding dirty secrets behind a virtue signalling exercise. For instance. Did you all know that the holier than thou Child Poverty Action Group paid salaries of £1,700,632 with total staff costs of £1,985,533 in 2018 out of a total income of £3,463,379. This does not take into account any other"costs" incurred for rent, travel, advertising et. etc. However in 2017 the audited accounts show that Restricted income was £1,088,088 whilst the Restricted outgoings were £1,098,545. Clearly the fiscal acumen of this charity follows the template laid down by all such left wing and marxist gatherings and will not benefit from any donation made by myself and their missives will be on my list of "propaganda to be avoided at all times" list.

[TheDevil]

Sqad - "I am sick of hearing about more money for the health service"

Boris implied it needed an extra 350 million a week and that we could give it to them if we left the EU.

On the Boris and Jeremy debate, a NHS doctor did raise the issue of strain the NHS is facing. So it is apparently an issue. Over population I'm sure doesn't help but neither does austerity or privatisation.

[THECORBYLOON]

That works out at about an average of £32,000 per employee. How much money have they enabled folk to receive because of their work?

[hereIam]

Is his middle name really de Pfeffel ??? (Cute) ! I don't care what his name is so long as he