Parking on double yellow lines

[madmondeo]

I left my motorbike on double yellow lines on saturday and returned shortly later to finder a 'traffic enforcement officer' has left a ticket on it! I am now thinking of going to the local council office and paying the �35 in pennies. Anyone ever done this? Or come up with a way of succesfully apealing?

[DanAB]

im not sure that appealing against that sort of ticket would work.

you shouldnt really park on double yellow lines

[cassa333]

I think there is a limit of about �6. If your small change is larger than this they can refuse to accept it. You will still be liable for the rest of the debt though so isn't worth it.

Some bloke tried to (begrudgingly) pay about �3000 (or it could have been more). He left in in a big tank and said there you go and walked off. The people he owed the money refused to accept it and he still had to pay... Where he got that much change from I don't know?

[paddywak]

As Dan says you need very strong grounds to make an appeal against an offence like this work. Even with a disability card which allows you to park on yellow lines you can still be fined in some situations I speak from experience, i didn't read the do's and dont.s properly when I first got mine and it cost me �30.00. Also in regard to paying in pennies I believe the law was changed in regards to how much people have to except in copper as legal tender so you my just find yourself with a lot of pennies

[dzug]

Well a possibility is they take your pennies.

A little later they contact you to say it was 2p short, so the fine was unpaid. BTW the deadline's passed, it's doubled.

If I worked in a council office I'd be very tempted to do that, quietly losing 2p if necessary.

Could you actually CARRY �35 in pennies anyway?

Just pay it properly or find real grounds for appeal.

[SlackAlice]

Do not know on what grounds you might appeal?
Paying in pennies will not work unless the council agrees to accept the coins voluntarily, see here

http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/Legal-Tender-British -Coins-amp-Currency_W0QQugidZ10000000001677566 ?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:STORES:2

[bazzyman]

Forget the pennies!!

you were parked on a double yellow line. You were breaking the law. you cannot appeal.
Just pay up man!!

[up4it]

I recently paid a parking ticket and on the back of it in the 'Ways to Pay' section it said that you could pay in cash but the minimum denomination that would be accepted would be �1 coins

So ... you could pay in 35 x �1 coins but that wouldnt bother them that much so kinda of defeats the object of the exercise

[Davethedog]

Bit confused here. You parked knowingly on double yellow lines. I take it you know that parking on double yellow lines is an offence. You came unstuck and got a ticket.

I appreciate it is galling but if you don't want a ticket don't park there. So why do you feel so hard done by?

[danchip]

ring up the fines office and ask if you can pay using change, hopefully you'll get a dippy young girl who says yes and then make sure you get her name for reference.

Keep ringing up and asking until you get someone who says yes

[grasscarp]

Years ago I read a story in the newspaper about a non English speaking foreigner turning up at a police station to pay a fine with a large amount of small change. Apparently the police were baffled and thought maybe he had drawn out the money saying it was for the coppers, and instead the bank gave it to him in coppers. At the end of the story it said "We never did find what he was playing at".

[squarebear]

The legal limit in pennies is 20p. Don't try paying it all in pennies as they can refuse it, as was done by Birmingham Council:

http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/article.aspx?c p-documentid=14352431

At the end of the day, you were in the wrong, so just pay the fine.

[Twenty20]

So, what makes you think its ok for you to park on a double yellow line?

Sorry, but your reaction is that of a child.

[bednobs]

i dont really see why paying in pennies is any different to paying by cheque or notes - you are still 35 quid lighter

[bednobs]

and if it is to inconvenience them, surley that just cutting your nose off to spite your face, as its going to be bloody inconveinent to you too, forstly getting the cash in pennies, then taking it on a motorbike to town and having to lug it in?

[Andyvon]

I think the question is not so much about the parking ticket but more about whether madmondeo can pay the �35 fine in pennies.

I've always understood that you can't pay for anything with more than 20 coins which is why banknotes are issued. There's a link included in an answer above which seems to verify that. To pay the fine with pennies would obviously take 3,500 of them and I think the council would be within their legal rights to refuse to accept them.

Besides, even if it were legal isn't this all a bit silly. What point would you be trying to make madmondeo? If you incurred the penalty then why not just accept it and pay the fine like anyone else?

[terambulan]

watch they dont drop the lot off the counter and leave you scrambling.

[R1Geezer]

As above coins are legel tender only up to few quid. What I'm puzzled about is why you fell hard done by, as one biker to another, perhaps you can explain it.