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Electric Car Owners To Pay Road Tax?

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barry1010 | 09:14 Sat 12th Nov 2022 | Motoring
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Can we believe the DM? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11418155/Owners-emission-free-vehicles-pay-tax-time-bid-plug-7-billion-shortfall.html

Of course it can't apply retrospectively, those already with an electric car won't be paying until they buy a new car.

Can it be true? Would it put you off buying a new electric car?
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There is no need for low emission zones or battery powered cars. The zones are just another tax on working people. It's peoples' lifestyles that kills them, not emissions from cars.
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If I had bought my car five months later the VED would have been around 5 times as much - for the exact same car.
// It's peoples' lifestyles that kills them, not emissions from cars. //

Nope. Tens of thousands of premature deaths in the UK are due to exposure to poor air quality.

https://inews.co.uk/news/health/air-pollution-kills-64000-people-in-the-uk-every-year-268508
//Road Fund Licence should be paid by all users equally.//

How do you reconcile the damage inflicted on road surfaces by an HGV being equal to the wear and tear caused by a 1L Fiat Panda?
^^^ Zebu - I think we're talking about cars & you're being a bit obtuse.
The damage from just about any vehicle that's in good working order is going to be negligible. It's age, weather, etc, that requires maintenance; so no reconciliation since it isn't appropriate.

Air quality may make for bigger health risk, but no one forces an individual to live in a low air quality area. That's a choice.

In any case air quality will improve as tech developments come through, and it's no great idea to simply move pollution and concentrate in one area anyway. All these fund raising scams put on motorists by authorities need repealing in order to get a more just, equitable society, rather than one that picks on an easy target to bully.
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There is no such thing as road fund licence. The tax vehicle owners pay to use the public highways hasn't funded road maintenance since 1936 and the revenue goes in to the central government money pot.
// The damage from just about any vehicle that's in good working order is going to be negligible.//

For example, when a vehicle turns a corner, since it has now deviated from its previous motion that was in a straight line, it is now accelerating!

Since the car is now accelerating as it turns the corner, this means there is a force exerted between the surface of the road and the vehicle's tyres. Thus the heavier the vehicle the greater the force.

As a consequence, larger vehicles contribute more to the road surface deteriorating more quickly. The weather, be it extremes of heat or cold, only serve to exacerbate the problem.

Bearing in mind the above, it is difficult to see how you arrive at the cost of RFL being equal for all road users?
// no one forces an individual to live in a low air quality area. That's a choice.
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That's ridiculous. Not everyone can afford to live in the country!
true, davebro, I was planning to buy Rutland, but the price goes into seven figures, so I've had to drop the plan and stay in my shed in London
And the larger vehicle does next to no damage, as does the smaller vehicle. It's pointless trying to make excuses for hitting one individual harder than another. It's just authority wanting to control and abuse.

Not everyone has to live in the country, or even in a low pollution area for that matter. Those who choose not to won't be forced to. Again, this 'not everyone can' argument is just one more nonsense argument.
agree with davebro -currently two thirds of the tricity that the cars use is being generated by gas generation and therefore emissions are belching out at the power stations - take into account the relative efficiency too what with transmission line losses.

second factor - the cars use the road and cause wear and tear and all the rest. Of course, they should be taxed.

I'm also very anti the government withdrawal of hydrocarbon cars, not least that there is new technology on the horizon, a 650 mln litre plant being built in Chile by Porsche, siemens and Enap to make hydrocarbon fuels from CO2 in the air - effectively meaning that from the intake into the plant to the cars exhaling the gas being trapped in a carbon sink - could be great technology for countries where there is hydroelectric like scotland, Norway and others - and then think of all the redundant emissions in destroying and having made the service stations and vehicles, never mind the jobs.
I didn’t buy my Renault Zoe EV because of not paying road tax but simply because I wanted a small EV.
What I really like is not having to go and fill it up at a garage, I just plug it in to the charging thing we had fitted at the house.
People have all sorts of opinions on EVs, as is their right, however this car does me perfectly.



Vagus - what are the electric bills like now the tariffs have gone up so much? Surely can't be much cheaper than petrol now?
No idea, I leave himself to worry about that ;)
Ok, this is what he says
Just under 7p a mile, it was 4p a mile before the prices went up.
//What I really like is not having to go and fill it up at a garage, I just plug it in to the charging thing we had fitted at the house.//

And the folks who live in rows of terraced house or blocks of flats where they can't even park near their property?
...but I don’t live in one of those so it’s convenient for me.
I’m not responsible for other people’s living conditions, just my own.
I'm alright Jack!
Oh that’s grand, Dave, I’m so glad you are..me too.

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