ChatterBank1 min ago
Tenancy Issues
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Hello,
I'm currently renting a property from someone, she is selling and has found a buyer who is really keen to keep us on as long term tenants, we are good tenants, take care of the house, no parties etc.
Anyway, the question is, the house sale completes the day after our tenancy expires and the current landlord is asking us to move out, along with all of our stuff and move back in the next day when it becomes the new landlords house. I understand it is legally hers but is there anyway around it? for a start I can't get time off work to actually do the moving, I have nowhere to stuff a house full of stuff for an entire day and it just seems pointless. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I know in advance most of you are more intelligent than I am, which is precisely why I am asking for help so if you only have negative comments, please direct them elsewhere, I'm not a bad person for asking for help and have been made to feel an idiot more times than I care to remember on this site just for using the site for its actual purpose.
Thanks in advance :)
I'm currently renting a property from someone, she is selling and has found a buyer who is really keen to keep us on as long term tenants, we are good tenants, take care of the house, no parties etc.
Anyway, the question is, the house sale completes the day after our tenancy expires and the current landlord is asking us to move out, along with all of our stuff and move back in the next day when it becomes the new landlords house. I understand it is legally hers but is there anyway around it? for a start I can't get time off work to actually do the moving, I have nowhere to stuff a house full of stuff for an entire day and it just seems pointless. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I know in advance most of you are more intelligent than I am, which is precisely why I am asking for help so if you only have negative comments, please direct them elsewhere, I'm not a bad person for asking for help and have been made to feel an idiot more times than I care to remember on this site just for using the site for its actual purpose.
Thanks in advance :)
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Yes the new landlord has already dropped off new tenancy agreements for us to sign starting the day after this one ends. It just seems so ridiculous that I would need to do all of that when I'm staying where I am, I understand legally if they say I have to I have no choice but surely there must be something I can do? This must happen quite a bit?
''the new landlord has already dropped off new tenancy agreements for us to sign starting the day after this one ends.''
So there isn't actually any period of time - even just one day - where you don't have a contract (subject to you signing it) to legally be in the property? You need to ask your existing Landlord exactly what the reason is for wanting you to move out 'for the day'. Once you know that you can go from there...
So there isn't actually any period of time - even just one day - where you don't have a contract (subject to you signing it) to legally be in the property? You need to ask your existing Landlord exactly what the reason is for wanting you to move out 'for the day'. Once you know that you can go from there...
As nobody seems able to give you a definitive answer so far, I suggest you speak to Shelter who are the experts in this area. They are very helpful.
http://england.shelter.org.uk/
http://england.shelter.org.uk/
The current owners have probably sold with vacant possession on completion and are concerned they will not comply with the terms of the contract if you are occupying a part or all of the property.
This should be easy to resolve explain the position to the new owner and obtain their agreement to remain.
This should be easy to resolve explain the position to the new owner and obtain their agreement to remain.
I wonder if it's something to do with the Assured Shorthold Tennancy Agreement.
If you have been there for over 6 months, with your original landlord, you and your landlord will probably have the right to just give one months notice to end the tenancy.
If you sign a new agreement with the new landlord, that locks both of you into a minimum 6 months tenancy. The new landlord wants to be sure of 6 months rent from you.
I don't know if I'm right but maybe there needs to be a break between tenancies for the new agreement to be valid.
If you have been there for over 6 months, with your original landlord, you and your landlord will probably have the right to just give one months notice to end the tenancy.
If you sign a new agreement with the new landlord, that locks both of you into a minimum 6 months tenancy. The new landlord wants to be sure of 6 months rent from you.
I don't know if I'm right but maybe there needs to be a break between tenancies for the new agreement to be valid.
Seems strange to me. What initially sprang to mind me was the vacant possession thing which begs the question whether the buyers have a buy to let mortgage or have consent to let.
Usually lenders would need to ok a tenancy agreement to protect themselves (or have their lawyers, usually the same one as the buyer) certify it is ok to protect them.
Contracts can be varied with consent of both sides. I wonder if it is mortgage related. Maybe they have an issue with the current tenancy agreement or for some reason they haven't been told (maybe late stage when they have already exchanged and it might cause issues with the lender raised at this point - issues with the lender could, worst case scenario, delay mortgage funds or result in withdrawal of a mortgage offer.
Anything which is a means of covering up a true situation is not a good thing and could lead to future issues.
I'm not saying that is the case, of course.
Usually lenders would need to ok a tenancy agreement to protect themselves (or have their lawyers, usually the same one as the buyer) certify it is ok to protect them.
Contracts can be varied with consent of both sides. I wonder if it is mortgage related. Maybe they have an issue with the current tenancy agreement or for some reason they haven't been told (maybe late stage when they have already exchanged and it might cause issues with the lender raised at this point - issues with the lender could, worst case scenario, delay mortgage funds or result in withdrawal of a mortgage offer.
Anything which is a means of covering up a true situation is not a good thing and could lead to future issues.
I'm not saying that is the case, of course.
sounds like they have misunderstood something somewhere to think this is normal and a reasonable expectation.
i would just agree to it... then just dont ... what are they going to do about it?
by the time they could act they would no longer own the place so nothing they can do
just ignore the doorbell and calls for that day.
its a ridiculous expectation to expect someone to pack up a house for one day.
its a massive task ...
you could always say if they want you to they must pay for a removals firm to pack up for you and move it all
i would just agree to it... then just dont ... what are they going to do about it?
by the time they could act they would no longer own the place so nothing they can do
just ignore the doorbell and calls for that day.
its a ridiculous expectation to expect someone to pack up a house for one day.
its a massive task ...
you could always say if they want you to they must pay for a removals firm to pack up for you and move it all