court on monday

[carbut]

my friends husband had been accused of sexual assult on her 27 yr old daughter ( from previous relationship)which he denies. he has been accused of penertrating her with his finger (but looking at the size of her im not sure he could have) unless she consented. if found guilty what sentence should he expect?

[paraffin]

What, if anything, has he been charged with by the Police?

[stonekicker]

what on earth has size got to do with it? such a stupid comment...more to the point, is there any history of bad feeling between them? previous allegations or problems? personally, you can never tell what someone is like deep down - i have been shocked several times by people i have been acquainted with in the past and shenanigans they have been found guilty of (and quite obviously done). leave it to the rozzers and courts to sort out and but your big, opinionated nose out of it.

[carbut]

mind your own there is a lot of bad feeling between the daughter and mother the daughter has made these allegations about her mothers last partner and she does not want her mother to have anyone in her life she is so large that to get to where he has bee asscued of going he would have had to lift a large amount of stomach and with her saying she was wearing jeans when it happened that would have been very hard

[mucholegend]

wizard you read so often that its not stranger danger

but those closer that are the greatest risk.

[carbut]

whether he is foung guilty or not is up to the courts he prob will be as courts nearly always favour on side of woman what i would like to know is what sentence he will probably get so i can prepare his wife.
all men out there should be aware that at any time if you upset some female she could make allegations like this against you and you wil have to prove your innocence which is not as easy as it sounds.
and yes i am female!!

[stonekicker]

as for telling me to mind my own - you are the one on a public site asking for people's opinions. if you don't want to hear one that is blatantly different to yours - don't ask! it's quite simple. as for the point i was making, your comments are disgusting. you weren't there, are entitled to your own opinion, but no-one can judge as to wether the event actually took place except for the two people supposedly present. the law and the courts are there for a good reason - to stop bigoted people like you making your mind up before asking questions. irrespective of whether there is a 'history', he could still have sexually assaulted her. its like saying drunk girls deserve to get raped. grow up and pee off.

[carbut]

i asked a question about sentence he could expect not whether you thought he had done it as i said that is up to judge and jury and if you are male you best hope you never upset a woman cause its one sure way of causing a lot of problems and upset not only for the man accussed but also all the family

[stonekicker]

i just object to your foul views, carbut. does it make a difference if i am male or female? like i said, your expressed opinion offended me and as this is a public site, i am rightly telling you so. get off your horse before you fall off it (that would be a larf)

[carbut]

i wish i had never found this dam website i will not use it again i asked a simple question and all i have is s***. from you touched a nerve have i .

[sara3]

http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/docs/8 2083-COI-SCG_final.pdf

see page 29 of this document. 2 years custody would seem to be the starting point.

[sara3]

oh, am I a bit late then?

[stonekicker]

ooooo. stooped to slinging sh!t, have we? that is the defence of someone who has no rational argument or explanation for their crass comments. no - you haven't touched a nerve, i am female and i am ashamed to say a comment like yours came from someone of my sex. there. i said it. woop-de-do. seems common sense to me if you ask ten people a question, some of them will give you an answer you don't like. sorry for pointing out the obvious. I DON'T CARE HOW FAT OR WHAT SHE HAS SAID/DONE IN THE PAST, THE ASSAULT COULD STILL HAVE TAKEN PLACE. has that sunk in yet?

[sara3]

you're very welcome, carbut.

[paraffin]

Hi carbut:

I can see that a lot of mud has been slung your way because you've only come on here and asked a question in good faith.

I was hoping to be able to try to advise you concerning this and you may notice that I was first to reply to you.

If you could provide the answer to the question I asked, I may hopefully be able to help with your enquiry.

[carbut]

thank you sara3 your answer has helped me.
paraffin i was going to reply to you when i seen my freind to read the charge sheet but the link sent by sara3 has given a rough idea of what to expect

[flip_flop]

Chavs.