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Green energy plan for British bases.
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http://tinyurl.com/6floob3
Since British troops are planned to be withdrawn from Afghanistan in 3 years time, is this Green energy plan, worth the money it will cost to be implemented?
Since British troops are planned to be withdrawn from Afghanistan in 3 years time, is this Green energy plan, worth the money it will cost to be implemented?
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What money ?
///The MoD's Defence Equipment and Support (DE&S) agency has invited contractors to put forward ideas for how remote bases could switch to renewable energy sources.///
All the MoD have done is to ask contractors to come up with ideas and suggestions for ways to reduce the reliance on diesel in order to minimise the number of fuel convoys required .
///The MoD's Defence Equipment and Support (DE&S) agency has invited contractors to put forward ideas for how remote bases could switch to renewable energy sources.///
All the MoD have done is to ask contractors to come up with ideas and suggestions for ways to reduce the reliance on diesel in order to minimise the number of fuel convoys required .
From the Generals spiel from on the ground I thought we were winning the war and soon there will be no terrorists to fight. Maybe they had in mind the number of IEDs still left in the ground from those past insurgents.
If it solely down to the costs of transportation quibbling about pennies when we have spent £bns on this unwinnable war seems a bit unreal.
If it solely down to the costs of transportation quibbling about pennies when we have spent £bns on this unwinnable war seems a bit unreal.
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You ask what money?
Do you think that these contractors are going to provide the MoD's Defence Equipment and Support (DE&S) agency with ideas and suggestions free of charge?
And if they are good enough to say, 'provide them with a free estimate' there will have to be money spent in the finish to implement these ideas and suggestions.
You ask what money?
Do you think that these contractors are going to provide the MoD's Defence Equipment and Support (DE&S) agency with ideas and suggestions free of charge?
And if they are good enough to say, 'provide them with a free estimate' there will have to be money spent in the finish to implement these ideas and suggestions.
Yes, AOG, the contractors will provide the suggestions and ideas free of charge, along with costings, in the hope that this will persuade the MoD to make purchases in the future.
For now this is purely an information gathering exercise, not a bidding process. Until the MoD actually place orders, they are not spending any money on it.
For now this is purely an information gathering exercise, not a bidding process. Until the MoD actually place orders, they are not spending any money on it.
All very well intentioned I'm sure.
Big problem though. Power from photovoltaic panels produces very little energy. You'd need a hell of a lot of them to power a military base. As for the wind, sometimes it doesn't blow. The idea that you can run a military base using solar and wind energy is laughable. The fact that the MOD is even considering it shows that (a) they are being cut to the bone and desperate to save whatever money they can and (b) they haven't got a clue about the effectiveness of renewable energy (which makes them comparable to most UK citizens).
The biggest problem they're faced with is storage. Some nights it might be windy but I'm pretty sure that the sun doesn't shine when it's dark. So the energy collected during the windy, sun-drenched days would have to be stored in batteries... which are not very efficient at the moment.
Big problem though. Power from photovoltaic panels produces very little energy. You'd need a hell of a lot of them to power a military base. As for the wind, sometimes it doesn't blow. The idea that you can run a military base using solar and wind energy is laughable. The fact that the MOD is even considering it shows that (a) they are being cut to the bone and desperate to save whatever money they can and (b) they haven't got a clue about the effectiveness of renewable energy (which makes them comparable to most UK citizens).
The biggest problem they're faced with is storage. Some nights it might be windy but I'm pretty sure that the sun doesn't shine when it's dark. So the energy collected during the windy, sun-drenched days would have to be stored in batteries... which are not very efficient at the moment.
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If we consider the amount of electricity needed to power a whole military base, which is effectively a small village, you need huge amounts of it. Lights (including high wattage flood-lights), computer equipment, sanitary equipment (laundry, etc.), cooking & heating (two massive energy consuming activities), etc.
You'd need batteries the size of a large house and acres of solar panels / wind turbines and even then you couldn't guarantee that the weather conditions will be in your favour. Not forgetting of course we're talking about military bases that are in hostile territory – so solar/wind farms which power these bases will be a prime target – just as the fuel convoys are now.
Nothing is solved by this venture. All you're doing is removing one problem by replacing it with another.
If we consider the amount of electricity needed to power a whole military base, which is effectively a small village, you need huge amounts of it. Lights (including high wattage flood-lights), computer equipment, sanitary equipment (laundry, etc.), cooking & heating (two massive energy consuming activities), etc.
You'd need batteries the size of a large house and acres of solar panels / wind turbines and even then you couldn't guarantee that the weather conditions will be in your favour. Not forgetting of course we're talking about military bases that are in hostile territory – so solar/wind farms which power these bases will be a prime target – just as the fuel convoys are now.
Nothing is solved by this venture. All you're doing is removing one problem by replacing it with another.
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