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So Will The Whining Left Accuse The Government Of Cuts?

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youngmafbog | 11:21 Tue 02nd Jun 2015 | News
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Or will they get behind the drive to bring the NHS into the 21st Century so it will survive and once again be the service it was originally intended to be?

http://news.sky.com/story/1494576/nhs-must-deliver-on-patient-care-and-waste
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Yep, the other parties will support the Conservatives when they starve the NHS into survival. It's the only sensible course isn't it?
Is this about NHS privatisation again ?
Does it matter who provides the service as long as it's value for money and it's free at the point of delivery. As long as that is achieved, that's all that matters.
The first thing that come to my mind was answered in the article.



Jeremy Hunt is trying to pull the wool over people's eyes by acting as if the £3bn agency (cost) is a bill he has suddenly discovered.
"NHS bosses have been urged by Jeremy Hunt to focus on finding efficiencies and patient care rather than complain about a lack of funds."

Typical management tactic of not addressing a concern buit throwing the problem back for others to solve suggesting an option that is probably inadequate and possibly invalid, just so long as the management doesn't have to deal with their issues.

"The Health Secretary hit out at the NHS saying the Government has provided the extra funding requested by its chief executive and now wants the health service to "deliver its side of the bargain" by eliminating waste."
And there is still waste to cut ? The main issue referred to is the need to hire sub-contracted staff at high rates because so called efficiency drives ensure no slack in the system, so there are insufficient staff to cover when demand is high.

It's outrageous that taxpayers are being forced to pay over the odds because of such a blinkered policy of not employing enough to do the tasks required of it.

"The NHS is bigger than all of these companies, so we'll use that bargaining power to drive down rates and beat them at their own game."
Yes, well, we can all see that happening.

"Mr Hunt also complained about £600m spent on management consultants. Management recruiting management to help them make management decisions. New rules will set a maximum hourly rate for agency doctors, ban the use of agencies that are not approved, put a cap on agency spending in NHS trusts with financial difficulties and require approval for consultancy contracts over £50,000."
They ought not be using agencies (much) in the first place. Certainly not as a deliberate strategy. Flexing muscle will result in the less capable being used as the more capable will be looking elsewhere.

"Mr Burnham added a decision to cut 6,000 nursing posts meant the NHS had no choice but to turn to agencies. The only answer was to recruit more nurses and create more training places, he said."
Sounds good as long as they train/recruit UK nurses, rather than grab skills learnt elsewhere in the world where they are sorely needed.
I certainly think that the Whining left as you call it would have 100% respect if our Dave put his own house in order & look into the MP's expenses, after all, "We are all in it together Aren't we, so if that's the case lets ALL have the expenses, Tax Breaks, Claim for our Porn Mags, Plugs for our Sinks, then that will be a fair system & "WE Will Be All In It Together.
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//Dave put his own house in order & look into the MP's expenses//

What on earth has that got to do with the NHS?

So I guess none of you think its a good idea to get value for money, better to keep lobbing cash (that is soaked up by bloated Management (and mis management).

Gawd 'elp us (and the NHS)
What about the last bit of the article, YMB

Mr Burnham added a decision to cut 6,000 nursing posts meant the NHS had no choice but to turn to agencies.

The only answer was to recruit more nurses and create more training places, he said.


Do you agree with him?
I suspect there's an element of fraud in the relationship between the NHS and the Health Agencies. ( Sections of the NHS management, that is)
Hunt: "The NHS is bigger than all of these companies, so we'll use that bargaining power to drive down rates and beat them at their own game."

Can he really be that niave?
If the NHS needs a person with a particular skill and someone else can supply it, then the supplier is the one that can dictate price. Little wonder that Hunt got to where he is today due to nepotism rather than his own business accumen.

The failure is not paying exorbiant rates, the failure is putting yourself in the position where you do not have enough staff to do the job you are contracted to do.
"The NHS is safe in our hands" ...a well known quote, from a well know former Tory leader. It was wrong then and its still wrong now.

Don't blame me...I voted Labour !
mikey
Did you really? I thought one's voting preferences were a secret. lol
Bit like those shy tories who returned an overall majority. Now you didn't predict that one did you. :-)

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." eh Mikey?
You do talk absolute rot, mikey. These problems have built up over years, mainly when the beloved Labour Party were in charge, not the 3 weeks of Conservative Government.
// These problems have built up over years, mainly when the beloved Labour Party were in charge, not the 3 weeks of Conservative Government. //

You seemed to be missing 5 years of a Conservative led Government out of your calendar of events. True these problems have not just occurred in 3 weeks, but I don't think you can play the new to the job, it was the last fellows fault, when Hunt has been in charge of this Department for 3 years.
Retrocop...I always thought Tory voters were foolish and misguided but it was surprise to me, and everybody else, when so many of them turned out to be liars as well !
They were 'shackled' by their coalition partners, apparently.
Although I consider our current Conservatives to be operating a 'slow-motion socialism' and used the Liberals as an excuse not to carry out unpopular but necessary policies.
liars. Thats a bit strong.A smart poker player keeps his hand close to his chest. :-)
Fair enough ...they were fibbers instead !
You can count me amongst those who do think it is favourable to get value for money from the NHS, youngmaf, and that’s certainly not the case at the moment.

My wife had occasion to be referred to hospital last year. An appointment was made unilaterally for her which she couldn’t keep (details sent by letter, first class, despite the hospital having our phone and e-mail details). Simple matter, you would think. Ring up and change it. Not so. She could not have another appointment made by phone. “You will get a letter in a day or two saying that as you had missed your appointment (which of course she had not) another will be made shortly”. “What happens if I can’t make the new one?” she asked. “Then the same thing will happen again but if you “fail” three times your name will be removed from the list and you will have to be referred again by your GP.” What other organisation would (a) waste so much money on such a cumbersome system and (b) treat their “customers” with so much contempt?

Whenever I have visited a hospital (which is thankfully extremely infrequently) there are always four women sitting behind the reception desk. Three are seemingly doing nothing and the one you finally get to see treats you as if you are a nuisance for ruining her day.

Stories such as these abound and are not isolated. There is no shortage of money in the NHS. Spending in real terms has increased enormously in recent years and looks likely to continue to rise. There is a shortage of management will to manage the business and too many jobs within it are there for the benefit of the employees and not patients. This issue of excessive agency costs are not ones that need ministerial attention. NHS managers (of whom there are far too many) are paid handsomely to run the business and if they are being charged excessive rates for agency staff it is because they have agreed to do so. Many companies and organisations employ agency staff but they don't bankrupt their businesses in the process.

Quite honestly privatisation would be the best thing for the NHS. There is no earthly reason why the State should be the main provider of health services. If you suggested that the State should run supermarkets or airlines or telecommunications networks people would question your sanity. Government is rarely the best institution to run vital services and health is no exception. It’s about time the ridiculous hysteria over the NHS being “The Jewel in the Crown” was ended. The NHS needs releasing from the shackles of State governance and allowed to flourish under professional management. They will want to make a profit and that’s what will drive its efficiency and effectiveness. It would certainly remove this stupid party political bickering which escalates to epidemic proportions at election times. This should not be a party political issue and if the health service was removed from the paws of grubby politicians it couldn’t be.

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