Just What It Is With The Moslems?

[LewPaper]

Of all the world's religions it's only the Moslems are perpetually in the public eye. Not only that but if we try to intervene to suggest a course of action we're told to mind our our business as we're 'alienating them' yet if we don't their own spiritual leaders appear to be either impotent or indifferent.
Individually I'm sure they're as sensible and warm-hearted as everyone else but their religion seems only to be happy when they're stirring up trouble.

[sevenOP]

keyplus90
/////their religion seems only to be happy when they're stirring up trouble.////

The 'guns don't kill people, people kill people' trap.

Could destabilisation be the "It" the moral high ground ignores ?

Lump the Wahhabi export from Saudi under the tacit US of A eyes with the deliberate destruction of pan-Arabic socialism and maybe the Pontius Pilate washbowl will not be as cleansing.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/shamus-cooke/60462/the-spectacular-media-failure-on-charlie-hebdo

[vulcan42]

keyplus tells DaisyNonna that he couldn't comment on the child as he doesn't know him. A reasonable comment but then he goes on and tells her that the childs behaviour has nothing to do with religion and she "is just wrong and have no knowledge". In that one sentence keyplus has summed up all that is wrong with islam, whatever happens it is never the fault of his religion.
He said he was too busy to come on here and discuss the Paris atrocity but he wasn't too busy a few days afterwards to ask for help with his router.

[naomi24]

Vulcan, well spotted.

Keyplus, I know you think the holocaust didn’t happen as we know it did, and I know you’re impressed by ludicrous conspiracy theories, but I sincerely hope you’re not attempting to compare the offence caused by a cartoon to the most shameful period in modern history. Some countries do legislate against holocaust denial but that isn’t a strike against freedom of speech – it’s a strike against both deliberately manufactured lies designed specifically to exacerbate racial hatred, and utter stupidity. As a reasonably educated man, your obsession with a mindless religion that rejects the basic principles of human freedom and of human compassion should worry you.

I tried to watch your video, but I gave up after three minutes. I can’t understand much of what the man’s saying.

[mibn2cweus]

Only reasonable goals are pursued entirely through appeals to reason . . . initiation of force is the hallmark of the unjustifiable pursuit of an irrational goal.

[wildwood]

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Musiims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims'

[wildwood]

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

[wildwood]

**********SO THIS LEAD TO *****************
They’re not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan

******** So, where are they happy? **********
They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves... THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!! And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will be get hammered.

[wildwood]

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
AND A LOT MORE" !


I can copy & paste too. :-)

[TWR]

I Live live in England

I Speak Welsh

When I live In England

People in England have houses in Wales

I could not afford a house in Wales

Am I Jealous of the people of England that have Houses in Wales?

Why should I be Jealous of the people that have Houses In Wales?

I have my moments with Clown from England that call people from Wales

But I do not tie ALL WITH THE SAME BRUSH

There are good and bad no matter where you go

but one thing I will say

Who are giving the Publicity?

The persons that keep going on about them!

I have my Opinions, it may offend a few

I feel sorry for the Muslim race, but to all the Muslim Race

You can help us, by helping you

There's hatred amongst the people within your Race.

To the Good of you, help us to rid of the ones that the Hatred is directed at the good ones of you.

[ummmm]

It's not a race. it's a religion. I could become a Muslim tomorrow if I wanted.

[birdie1971]

TWR - "... I feel sorry for the Muslim race, but to all the Muslim Race. You can help us, by helping you. There's hatred amongst the people within your Race. To the Good of you, help us to rid of the ones that the Hatred is directed at the good ones of you."

As 'ummmm' has correctly and succinctly pointed out, muslims are not a race. You can change your religion but you cannot change your race. Ergo, muslims are a religious group and not a race since anyone can become a muslim. Islam is in fact a political system thinly disguised as a religion, flagrantly and obviously plagiarised from early Jewish texts.

The problem is Islam. It unequivocally teaches that violence and intolerance of non-muslims is acceptable and laudable. Slavery of non-muslim is sanctioned in the Koran. As is rape, murder, torture, exorbitant taxation, humiliation and domination of each and every person on the planet. That all might sound a little excessive and far-fetched to people who are ignorant of the teaching of the Koran and the Hadiths. Unfortunately each and every one of those claims is absolutely true and easily discoverable by anyone who has the ability to Google. The fact that most non-muslims chose to be ignorant of Islam and sometimes even defend this religion, that they patently know almost nothing about, never ceases to amaze me.

To paraphrase Shakespeare, "There is something rotten in the state of Islam.".

[TWR]

I will correct that Religion / Not Race x

[birdie1971]

Wildwood -

Thank you for a very interesting series of posts. I suspect that when the entity known as "keyplus90" reads it she will desperately trawl the internet for a comparative list of wrongs done to muslims by non-muslims and thereby claim some kind of victory.

In a way, your list of Islamic inspired atrocities, while interesting, is not quite so fascinating as your text that says, "... They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves... THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!! And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy..."

This statement is laser-guided in its accuracy. Owning a copy of the Koran and having read it numerous times, it is clear to me that Mohammed was a narcissist. As a consequence of his narcissism, he always regarded himself as a victim - even when he was the aggressor. It didn't matter to him if he started a 'fight'; in his mind, he was always the victim. There are stories in the Koran in which Mohammed has people killed for the 'crime' of supposedly 'plotting' against him. In Mohammed's mind, a perceived plot - either real or imagined - was reason enough to commit and justify murder. And kill them he did.

This concept of victimhood infects Islamic scripture like a cancer. In Islamic countries, if you speak out against homophobia, intolerance, sexual discrimination, or heaven forbid - Islam itself, you are guilty of 'insulting Islam'. It doesn't matter how valid your arguments are, such things are Haram and are therefore punishable; often by medieval methods laid down by Islamic kangaroo courts.

The point is, muslims believe in a narcissistic prophet that they are taught to emulate. And they do so, to devastating effect. Mohammed illicitly gained money and actively condoned slavery, rape, violence and murder. He also demanded absolute power over his followers. All the things that most sane muslims in Islamic countries are desperate to escape from. The depressing and ironic thing is that once some of them are gratefully unshackled from the bonds of Islamic law and live in democratic, liberal societies, they start campaigning for the introduction of barbaric Sharia Law!

You can lead a man to knowledge but you cannot make him think.

[beso]

Often it is the children of the Muslims who have come to the west to escape the dominant Islamofascists in their own country.

Unfortunately they continue to teach their children to study the Quran, to love Mohammed and Islam without realising that these are the very things that are the very foundations of the oppression they have escaped and they just happened to be on the losing side.

The problem with all fascism is that it is very attractive to those who see themselves as part of the wining side.