Listener No 4277 Rise And Fall By Colleague

[upsetter]

good progress & PDM so far - just the SGF to complete

[Cagey]

And he limps home for a tardy finish, joining that exclusive eight minutes to twenty one club. Yay he/me.

[Contrarian]

I've just realised that I forgot to post last week's solution (the one due tomorrow). It says on the listenercrossword site that I can submit late if I inform JG in advance. What exactly does this mean? In advance of the date by which I ought to have submitted it ordinarily, or in advance of the date of publication if the solution? If the former, then there is nothing I can do now, short of paying a courier to deliver it. If the latter, then the advice seems a little superfluous. Obviously a submission after the solution publication would be a bit absurd.

[crosswhit99]

JEG will accept late submissions (received before the answer is published) for statistical purposes only if you anticipate the delay in advance and notify him accordingly, for example due to a planned foreign holiday. Even if you can't notify him in advance, as in this case, it's still worth including a note with your entry explaining the reason it's late - in the circumstances I'm sure he would include it in your stats as long as you didn't make a habit of it !

I'm a bit confused by comments here that one member is missing from the complete set. If I'm right there are 13 members in the original work - 8 of these appear in the grid and the other 5 appear as letter jumbles in the clues.

[Contrarian]

Thanks crosswhit99.

I decided to play safe and send it by courier this morning.

Groans from my wife when I told her why I was paying £100+ for a letter to be sent to St Albans.

[jim360]

Seriously?!

[Contrarian]

That's funny. That's almost exactly what my wife asked.

[Contrarian]

Jim,

I am incorrigibly tardy. In my time, I have been 45 mins late for my undergraduate admissions interview, missed a university exam because I arrived too late to be admitted to the hall, missed countless flights having arrived at the check-in desk only minutes before the plane was due to take off, and turned up 30 minutes late for my D.Phil. viva.

I often pay for guaranteed next day delivery of my Listener solution, because i forget to post it until the day before the deadline. This time, I was slightly more disorganised than usual.

[jim360]

Well it's certainly commitment to getting your solution in, huh.

[freiheid]

Blimey, Contrarian, I hope you win

[tramart]

I no longer submit entries - don't want the prize and am unlikely to get another 'all correct'. Mr. Green, I understand, accepts late entries provided they are postmarked before the closure date. However, much of the mail I receive arrives un-franked, which has been the case for a couple of years. So I would suggest adding "posted on dd.mm.yy" in or on the envelope.
I have never felt the need to criticize Mr.Green, beyond the minor observation that his drawing of prize-winners is not as random as it might appear, but I do wish entries could be submitted by e-mail as well as by steam post. If the Telegraph wasn't such an awful rag I'd probably transfer my allegiance to the EV - don't need more than one challenging crossword a week.

[Postigod]

I think, although I could be wrong, that there are two characters missing from the grid/clues. There are suggestions that both were attempted to be included, but maybe it proved too difficult. Some tricky clues but a great puzzle overall.