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How Do The Left Equate This With Their Ideals?
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Many derogatory remarks against successful British people who are wealthy and Western capitalism have been posted on this site over the years.
Ok, often it is with such zeal it is probably politics of envy, but one think that would interst me is here we have the Utopia of the left; a communist country and yet they seem to be celebrating an ever increasing army of billionaires, so how do all those that disparage Western capitalism explain this?
Many derogatory remarks against successful British people who are wealthy and Western capitalism have been posted on this site over the years.
Ok, often it is with such zeal it is probably politics of envy, but one think that would interst me is here we have the Utopia of the left; a communist country and yet they seem to be celebrating an ever increasing army of billionaires, so how do all those that disparage Western capitalism explain this?
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Just about every time one of our two main mantra-chanters makes a point about "The Left", they reveal that they are absolutely clueless about what people on the left actually think!
We've had several examples in recent weeks where the two have made such points and just about every one of the known left-leaning AnswerBankers has joined the thread to make it abundantly clear that they believe no such thing. For example, they're convinced that we hand-wringing yoghurt-knitters desperately want to give Gibraltar to Spain and the Falklands to Argentina. It's useless telling them we don't, so really all we can do now, I'd say, is just laugh at them.
We've had several examples in recent weeks where the two have made such points and just about every one of the known left-leaning AnswerBankers has joined the thread to make it abundantly clear that they believe no such thing. For example, they're convinced that we hand-wringing yoghurt-knitters desperately want to give Gibraltar to Spain and the Falklands to Argentina. It's useless telling them we don't, so really all we can do now, I'd say, is just laugh at them.
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I now see the mistake you have made. You searched for 'Capitalist' in the AB search engine above and pasted the first 3 results.
Some complaining about the price of Christmas Turkeys 5 years ago does not support the OPs claim of constant wealthy people bashing. In fact, it rather undermines that false conclusion.
I now see the mistake you have made. You searched for 'Capitalist' in the AB search engine above and pasted the first 3 results.
Some complaining about the price of Christmas Turkeys 5 years ago does not support the OPs claim of constant wealthy people bashing. In fact, it rather undermines that false conclusion.
Nearest thing to actual communism I've read about was the Israeli kibbutz system.
Building a new country from nothing, toiling in the fields, trying to feed everybody -and- churn out cash crops? No easy task. The majority were all recently arrived from other parts of the world and, significantly, most of them were all the same generation. Young, idealistic, energetic and inspired with ideas to make a better life for themselves. Everyone worked equally hard, fed and clothed equally well, housing and farm equipment were all shared amongst the members.
Wikipedia's description of how it all turned to **** is a lesson I wished they taught in all schools.
Basically, a couple of decades had gone by and it reached the stage where some of the kibbutz members', by then, elderly parents died and news that they had inherited wealth began to spread. The community demanded the money be invested in the farm and/or shared out around everyone who worked there! Arguments inevitably broke out and some arrangement where you had to buy your way out was arrived at, in some cases.
Idealism and cooperation and common ownership is all very well but inherited assets, arriving from outside the 'bubble' of the shared work effort just poison the interpersonal relationships required to make the whole thing work.
As for China, search YouTube for "Return to Whitehorse village" and see for yourselves how Chinese town developers treat the country bumpkins.
Building a new country from nothing, toiling in the fields, trying to feed everybody -and- churn out cash crops? No easy task. The majority were all recently arrived from other parts of the world and, significantly, most of them were all the same generation. Young, idealistic, energetic and inspired with ideas to make a better life for themselves. Everyone worked equally hard, fed and clothed equally well, housing and farm equipment were all shared amongst the members.
Wikipedia's description of how it all turned to **** is a lesson I wished they taught in all schools.
Basically, a couple of decades had gone by and it reached the stage where some of the kibbutz members', by then, elderly parents died and news that they had inherited wealth began to spread. The community demanded the money be invested in the farm and/or shared out around everyone who worked there! Arguments inevitably broke out and some arrangement where you had to buy your way out was arrived at, in some cases.
Idealism and cooperation and common ownership is all very well but inherited assets, arriving from outside the 'bubble' of the shared work effort just poison the interpersonal relationships required to make the whole thing work.
As for China, search YouTube for "Return to Whitehorse village" and see for yourselves how Chinese town developers treat the country bumpkins.
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