The Uk Border Agency...

[sandyRoe]

Prompted by another post. What authority do that have to stop and question people walking in the street?

[youngmafbog]

Customs and Excise Management Act 1979 and the Criminal Justice (International Co-operation) Act 1990

[sandyRoe]

If someone declined to answer any of their questions what could they do?

[VHG]

Not answering your question but however..

Living on the edge of Birmingham as I do, with areas that are almost 100% Asian, then stopping people on the street is not a very efficient way of finding illegal immigrants. Likely to cause unrest in the area as well.

Far better to target either ethnic shops or restaurants where people are likely to work, or target places where "low paid" workers are likely to work (meat production, sandwich production, fruit picking that sort of thing).

But then you read this article, which says people employing illegal immigrants have been fined a total of £80 million, yet we have only collected around £25 million.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23535938

I really do think this country is totally useless at doing some things.

What is the point of dragging people through court and fining them if you are not going to make much effort to collect the fines.

No wonder this country is full of illegal immigrants, fake asylum seekers, and thousands fiddling the benefit system.

We just cant organize anything to stop things like that.

[anotheoldgit]

Bring in enforced ID cards, that's the answer.

[TWR]

Do I remember somone saying this place is the laughing stock of the world? I refer to the UK.

[Brenden]

Agree AOG, and a national data bank, births, marriage, death then cancel insurance number) No identity card - no benefits - that should cause an uproar.

[Gromit]

// Bring in enforced ID cards, that's the answer. //

Yes, let's waste £billions on a failed Labour policy that won't work

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1281889/Labours-ID-card-scheme-scrapped-coalitions-law.html

[emmie]

ID cards can be faked, as can passports and any document you care to mention.

[ukanonymous]

If I had it my way I would drop the UK into the toilet and give it one big satisfying flush.

[mikey4444]

ukanonymous...well, you thought long and hard before you posted that didn't you !

[anotheoldgit]

emmie

/// ID cards can be faked, as can passports and any document you care to mention. ///

Of course they can, but only in small numbers, if they could be forged in large numbers then so could bank notes and if they were, then we would see financial disaster on a large scale.

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// ukanonymous...well, you thought long and hard before you posted that didn't you ! ///

Obviously while sitting on the toilet. :0)

[boxtops]

The Border Agency staff here have been cut back over the years - how can a few people be expected to stem all the flow....?

[friedgreentomato]

boxtops, well mentioned, successive governments have cut the bill so much that there is simply not enough staff to manage it!

[sandyRoe]

Seems the stop and question in London was an abuse of power

http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2013/08/02/comment-ukba-spot-checks-are-an-abuse-of-power-but-you-can-s

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT you said "Bring in enforced ID cards, that's the answer." you agree "ID cards can be faked, as can passports and any document you care to mention" albeit in small numbers.

Why then, are there an estimated one million illegal immigrants in Germany, where folk are required to have ID cards or passports?

[boxtops]

They can be faked in huge numbers, not only a few at a time.