Oxford street stabbing & Salford shooting.

[anotheoldgit]

Can anyone explain why eleven killer suspects in the Oxford Street killing have been released on bail, while the five arrested for the Salford killing are held in police custody?

[sandyRoe]

AOG, do you remember during the recent riots a young Asian man was knocked down by a car and killed?
The father of that man spoke very movingly and particularly asked that there be no retaliation of any kind.
His words could shame many of us. Why should feelings escalate now amongst the Asian community?

[jake-the-peg]

"Hate crime" is a more generic term it covers "gay bashing" and other such crimes as well as simply racial abuse

[Gromit]

//
Which community are they talking about, if they are talking about the community around the murder scene, then this would be rather sparse I would have thought, taking into consideration the none residential area where he was killed.

Or are they talking about the Asian community, if so is the police fearful that feelings could escalate amongst that community? //

They are talking about Salford residents. Predominantly white ones. There is much revulsion of this crime locally. This is not an Asian area.

[anotheoldgit]

jake-the-peg

I would have thought that 'Gay Bashing' would have a category of it's own, that being a ' Homophobic attack'

[Kromovaracun]

"a ' Homophobic attack' "

Which is different from a racist attack, but I think they're about the same in the eyes of the law as they're both counted as hate crimes, like Jake says.

[anotheoldgit]

Interesting to note that the Salford killing has attracted more comments than the Oxford street killing, could this be because it is a white who is alleged to have committed the murder?

Which only goes to show why the following crimes may have not been so media highlighted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...gland-london-16022192

http://www.dailymail....-white-***-FREED.html

[ummmm]

You don't question things, so much, when the killers are black, AOG.

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// You don't question things, so much, when the killers are black, AOG. ///

Not sure where you are coming from with that statement ummmm.

Are you referring to me specifically, or on the whole?

[Gromit]

AOG

You are obsessed by skin colour. The reason that the Salford killing has got more comments is because it is a more unusual crime. Sadly, young males in inner city London stab each other quite regularly, as you constantly highlight. The crime in Salford, of a random murder of a tourist without any motive. It is horrific. It is not getting more coverage because the perpetrators are white.

I notice you have not called the people who have done this 'savages'. I wonder why that is?

[sp1814]

Gromit...I think I know.

[ummmm]

I was referring to you AOG. Look at your response at 11.22....so many questions. Questions, bordering on excuses. I don't recall you asking so many questions when it's blacks killing whites. When it's blacks killing whites you post like it's what you expect from them. When the roles are reversed he must have had a reason...like he might have run off with his girlfriend...twaddle!!

[OrdsallSi]

Three of those arrested have been released on bail two are still in custody.

to answer your question
// “growing perceptions in the community” what does this mean?

Which community are they talking about, if they are talking
about the community around the murder scene, then this
would be rather sparse I would have thought, taking into
consideration the none residential area where he was killed. //

The word on the street is that he was killed for being the wrong colour nothing more nothing less

The none residential area where he was killed are you joking have you ever been to Ordsall

Taken from the Internet ( why not have a look )

Economy

Despite its notorious past, Ordsall's location between Manchester city centre
and Salford Quays has led to a regeneration boom. Average house prices
have risen over 100% in the past 5 years, with the area in the centre of
key regeneration visions such as the Irwell City Park scheme. A study
commissioned by insurers More Than, published in June 2007, revealed that
Ordsall had become one of the United Kingdom's property hot spots,
ranking 17th out of the 35 identified. The study rated areas by looking at
homes occupied by young, affluent professionals.


Do you honestly think that young affluent professionals are going to keep buying apartments and flats with savages running round the streets with guns

Ordsall with it's old Corrie style streets are long gone modern buildings are all you will find if you ever visit.

[Gromit]

AOG

In all your posts on the Salford murder, you have not offered any sympathy for the victim or his family. You have not offered any regret at it happening. You have not condemned the murderers.

Why do you support gangsters?

[DrFilth]

>> Ordsall with it's old Corrie style streets are long gone modern buildings are all you will find if you ever visit. <<

salford lads club is still there

[DrFilth]

and ordsall hall
http://maps.google.co...esnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CB

[Eve]

And the Ordsall Estate!

I back that up too (listen to the locals all saying the same thing), I used to live near there, it's far from a non-residential area.