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Would Killer Be Better Off Dead?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-119959 7/Stockwell-Strangler-Kenneth-Erskine-wins-app eal-convictions-reduced-manslaughter.html
This serial killer of geriatrics was jailed in 1988.
It has already cost the taxpayer a fortune, now a further �100,000 to have his convictions "downgraded".
He will remain in Broadmoor for the rest of his life.
Now deemed to have been suffering from "an abnormality of the mind", wouldn't he and the country be far better off were he to be "put down"?
This serial killer of geriatrics was jailed in 1988.
It has already cost the taxpayer a fortune, now a further �100,000 to have his convictions "downgraded".
He will remain in Broadmoor for the rest of his life.
Now deemed to have been suffering from "an abnormality of the mind", wouldn't he and the country be far better off were he to be "put down"?
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yes but we would loose the opportunity to learn about how people like him function Ice.
At the end of the day a lot of the offenders today are children that gre up abused, neglected , dropped out of schools, etc etc and we as a society have failed a number of these as we lack the structures to deal adequatly with child poverty, child abuse and juvenile crime. If children dont learn positive coping skilss or go undetected for mental illness ow are they equipped to deal with adulthood. As they say you reap what you sow and that is a lesson for society
At the end of the day a lot of the offenders today are children that gre up abused, neglected , dropped out of schools, etc etc and we as a society have failed a number of these as we lack the structures to deal adequatly with child poverty, child abuse and juvenile crime. If children dont learn positive coping skilss or go undetected for mental illness ow are they equipped to deal with adulthood. As they say you reap what you sow and that is a lesson for society
Hi pink.
Well, the medical profession've been trying to find a solution to these mental ilnesses for years, and they're scarcely any nearer to finding out what makes some folk turn into mass murderers whilst others are not.
It could be for many varied reasons, but the fact remains that when this man killed the 7 pensioners, he not only subjected them to abject terror and pain, but hurt their remaining relatives and friends, who have to live with the knowledge of that these poor women went through.
Removing the one person who did it, is some compensation for them - and Elvis - a perfect example in what you just said.
Well, the medical profession've been trying to find a solution to these mental ilnesses for years, and they're scarcely any nearer to finding out what makes some folk turn into mass murderers whilst others are not.
It could be for many varied reasons, but the fact remains that when this man killed the 7 pensioners, he not only subjected them to abject terror and pain, but hurt their remaining relatives and friends, who have to live with the knowledge of that these poor women went through.
Removing the one person who did it, is some compensation for them - and Elvis - a perfect example in what you just said.
Some of the comments on this issue really do beggar belief. Rov1200 seems to think that this guy is the victim and that 'society' has failed him!
He isn't denying that he killed these other human beings, but that somehow, it wasn't his fault. Exactly who's fault was it then? Was it mine? Yours? My cats? Oh, of course � it wasn't anyone's fault because he had an 'abnormality of the mind' at the time.
Strange how these 'abnormalities' seem to clear up once these people have been caught isn't it? Must the the sobering effects of incarceration that allows murdering scumbags to see clearly.
Kenneth Erskine killed innocent people for reasons that we (and apparently, he) cannot explain. So it turns out he was 'insane'. Boo-hoo. My heart bleeds for him. But he's all better now apparently...
My opinions are forever changing on the death penalty issue, but in all honesty I'm struggling to find a justifiable reason to keep this man alive...
He isn't denying that he killed these other human beings, but that somehow, it wasn't his fault. Exactly who's fault was it then? Was it mine? Yours? My cats? Oh, of course � it wasn't anyone's fault because he had an 'abnormality of the mind' at the time.
Strange how these 'abnormalities' seem to clear up once these people have been caught isn't it? Must the the sobering effects of incarceration that allows murdering scumbags to see clearly.
Kenneth Erskine killed innocent people for reasons that we (and apparently, he) cannot explain. So it turns out he was 'insane'. Boo-hoo. My heart bleeds for him. But he's all better now apparently...
My opinions are forever changing on the death penalty issue, but in all honesty I'm struggling to find a justifiable reason to keep this man alive...
The law - thankfully - treats mental and physical illness the same.
Example: if I develop a condition in my arm called 'jerky arm syndrome' which causes me to randomly and suddenly flail my arm around, and because of this I accidentally punch someone in the throat which kills them - just about everyone would accept that I didn't have any intention to kill him and that I shouldn't be held fully accountable. The condition has robbed me of my ability to control my arm.
If it happened 7 times, people would want me to be kept somewhere secure where I'm no longer a threat. Fine. But executing me for my physical defect would be unnecessary and too far. Surely?
If it's not a physical compulsion but a mental one that means I'm unable to control my actions and am not responsible for my behaviour - in exactly the same way - the principle is the same.
The problem is that people are still slow on the uptake when it comes to understanding and accepting mental illness. They think it's an excuse or an outright lie or not the kind of thing that would make you act violently. Even though perpatrators are assessed by qualified psychologists and the evidence scrutinised in a court of law, they still can't get their heads round it. How depressing.
"That man did a bad thing. Nasty man." That's the level of analysis. Incredible.
Example: if I develop a condition in my arm called 'jerky arm syndrome' which causes me to randomly and suddenly flail my arm around, and because of this I accidentally punch someone in the throat which kills them - just about everyone would accept that I didn't have any intention to kill him and that I shouldn't be held fully accountable. The condition has robbed me of my ability to control my arm.
If it happened 7 times, people would want me to be kept somewhere secure where I'm no longer a threat. Fine. But executing me for my physical defect would be unnecessary and too far. Surely?
If it's not a physical compulsion but a mental one that means I'm unable to control my actions and am not responsible for my behaviour - in exactly the same way - the principle is the same.
The problem is that people are still slow on the uptake when it comes to understanding and accepting mental illness. They think it's an excuse or an outright lie or not the kind of thing that would make you act violently. Even though perpatrators are assessed by qualified psychologists and the evidence scrutinised in a court of law, they still can't get their heads round it. How depressing.
"That man did a bad thing. Nasty man." That's the level of analysis. Incredible.
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