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somepeople say the holocaust didnt happen?
how can people say this?
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It's my view that they are attention seekers and know that their remarks will provoke a response and gain them publicity.
What sickened me this week was a report in the papers that a large percentage of schoolkids were questioned and most of them thought that Auschwitz was a type of lager!
A school trip to a concentration camp should be compulsary!
What sickened me this week was a report in the papers that a large percentage of schoolkids were questioned and most of them thought that Auschwitz was a type of lager!
A school trip to a concentration camp should be compulsary!
There is an arguement/school of thought, that after every war, the victor gets to write the history of what happened, and that events are therefore painted in the light that favours and glorifies the victor and vilifies the loser.
There are some who have used this to argue that the victor's of WWII, i.e the UK, France etc Allies, have "made-up" or overstated the victimisation of the Jewish and other minorities in order to make the Germans seem evil and to justify the actions of the allies.
Not saying that this is what happened, just that that is the arguement used.
There are some who have used this to argue that the victor's of WWII, i.e the UK, France etc Allies, have "made-up" or overstated the victimisation of the Jewish and other minorities in order to make the Germans seem evil and to justify the actions of the allies.
Not saying that this is what happened, just that that is the arguement used.
Tambo dont understand your staement there.
Its people who oppose the multicultural society that deny the holocaust.
Facists like the bnp , promote this lie , they are also opposed to multiculturalism.
So i think you may be confused?
"Anti-semitism and Holocaust denial.
The BNP, its former leaders and present leader, Nick Griffin, have promoted anti-semitism and Holocaust denial or revisionism in the past. In 1996, writing in his own publication, The Rune, Griffin stated that:
I am well aware that orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into soup and lampshades. I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria.
The following year, during a Cook Report documentary he stated:
There is no doubt that hundreds, probably thousands of Jews were shot to death in Eastern Europe, because they were rightly or wrongly seen as communists or potential partisan supporters. That was awful. But this nonsense about gas chambers is exposed as a total lie. "
Im offski before the BNP supporters jump in.
Personally i think the holocaust is still the worst wartime atrocity know to man , as of yet.
Its people who oppose the multicultural society that deny the holocaust.
Facists like the bnp , promote this lie , they are also opposed to multiculturalism.
So i think you may be confused?
"Anti-semitism and Holocaust denial.
The BNP, its former leaders and present leader, Nick Griffin, have promoted anti-semitism and Holocaust denial or revisionism in the past. In 1996, writing in his own publication, The Rune, Griffin stated that:
I am well aware that orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into soup and lampshades. I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria.
The following year, during a Cook Report documentary he stated:
There is no doubt that hundreds, probably thousands of Jews were shot to death in Eastern Europe, because they were rightly or wrongly seen as communists or potential partisan supporters. That was awful. But this nonsense about gas chambers is exposed as a total lie. "
Im offski before the BNP supporters jump in.
Personally i think the holocaust is still the worst wartime atrocity know to man , as of yet.
whatever else the nazi authorities were or did, they were meticulous record keepers.
the deniers can deny all they like; the evidence is there in an achive largely created by the perpetrators.
http://www.its-arolsen.org/en/about_its/index. html
the deniers can deny all they like; the evidence is there in an achive largely created by the perpetrators.
http://www.its-arolsen.org/en/about_its/index. html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty86MxLgxLM
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Why is the same film of the camps shown over and over? Only once have I seen a horrifying slaughterhouse with a man dressed in a hood just as in medieval days, with a huge axe and a basket full of heads.
Perhaps we have become enured to the magnitude of the killing and need to see this horrific clip as well.
As a side issue, unfortunately, the holocaust has become big business and is an excuse for all sorts of behaviour.
Perhaps we have become enured to the magnitude of the killing and need to see this horrific clip as well.
As a side issue, unfortunately, the holocaust has become big business and is an excuse for all sorts of behaviour.
Actually, there are very few people (if any) who say that the holocaust didn't happen. What they do say is that the numbers have been exaggerated.
The term holocaust denier is actually misused - it implies that people are denying it ever took place - they are not, they are 'merely' denying the figures.
Have a look at this from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concent ration_camp#Death_toll
he exact number of victims at Auschwitz is impossible to fix with certainty. Since the Nazis destroyed a number of records, immediate efforts to count the dead depended on the testimony of witnesses and the defendants on trial at Nuremberg. While under interrogation Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz concentration camp from 1940 to 1943,[32] said that Adolf Eichmann told him that two and a half million Jews had been killed in gas chambers and about half a million died "naturally".[33] Later he wrote "I regard two and a half million far too high. Even Auschwitz had limits to its destructive possibilities".[34]
Communist Polish and Soviet authorities maintained a figure "between 2.5 and 4 million".[1] The figure "4,000,000" was used on the original Auschwitz memorial plaques. The plaques did not specify the ethnicities of victims.
In 1983 French scholar George Wellers was one of the first to use German data on deportations to estimate the number killed at Auschwitz, arriving at 1.613 million dead, including 1.44 million Jews and 146,000 Catholic Poles.[citation needed] A larger study started later by Franciszek Piper used timetables of train arrivals combined with deportation records to calculate 960,000 Jewish deaths and 140,000-150,000 ethnic Polish victims, along with 23,000 Roma and Sinti (Gypsies).[citation needed] This number has met with "significant, though not compl
The term holocaust denier is actually misused - it implies that people are denying it ever took place - they are not, they are 'merely' denying the figures.
Have a look at this from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concent ration_camp#Death_toll
he exact number of victims at Auschwitz is impossible to fix with certainty. Since the Nazis destroyed a number of records, immediate efforts to count the dead depended on the testimony of witnesses and the defendants on trial at Nuremberg. While under interrogation Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz concentration camp from 1940 to 1943,[32] said that Adolf Eichmann told him that two and a half million Jews had been killed in gas chambers and about half a million died "naturally".[33] Later he wrote "I regard two and a half million far too high. Even Auschwitz had limits to its destructive possibilities".[34]
Communist Polish and Soviet authorities maintained a figure "between 2.5 and 4 million".[1] The figure "4,000,000" was used on the original Auschwitz memorial plaques. The plaques did not specify the ethnicities of victims.
In 1983 French scholar George Wellers was one of the first to use German data on deportations to estimate the number killed at Auschwitz, arriving at 1.613 million dead, including 1.44 million Jews and 146,000 Catholic Poles.[citation needed] A larger study started later by Franciszek Piper used timetables of train arrivals combined with deportation records to calculate 960,000 Jewish deaths and 140,000-150,000 ethnic Polish victims, along with 23,000 Roma and Sinti (Gypsies).[citation needed] This number has met with "significant, though not compl
my husband was in the army in germany, while we were there my dad came over for a visit, he asked to see belson camp. because he was there when it was liberated , so we took our two girls it was not a nice place, but i felt they needed to know , once you walk through the camp it stays with you . it is a history that should never be forgot.
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