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birdie1971 | 01:12 Mon 02nd Mar 2009 | News
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Apparently, it's now illegal to take photos of Police Officers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/ philipjohnston/4632459/Why-cant-we-take-pictur es-of-policemen.html

I've said it before, we are slowly sliding into a police state.

Great quote from a very famous German person, "The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible
reductions. In this way the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed"

I don't often find myself agreeing with Adolf, but on this issue I believe him to be correct.
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If you could actually FIND a Police Officer, let alone photograph one, then you're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't forget from today your isp have to keep a record of all the times and places that you visit on your computer.
Bodies entitled to access this information include
The post office
Health authorities
Councils
Ministry of defence
The health and safety Excutive
Food standards agency
And others

They have to keep your emails and history for at least a year
I fear the problem lies, not with governments using Orwells 1984 as a template. But more with the people allowing them.

It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one meaning.
George Orwell

Orwell rolls in his grave
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Troutater - �They have to keep your emails and history for at least a year �

The daft thing about this is that it's so easy to cover your tracks if you want to. Don't want some Government official reading your emails? Use PGP.

Don't want the Government to find out where you've been surfing? Use an anonymizer.

Anyone who is intent on circumventing these systems of surveillance can do so with the minimum of fuss.
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Dabees - �I fear the problem lies, not with governments using Orwells 1984 as a template. But more with the people allowing them.�

I agree.

We seem to be so pathetically apathetic in this country.

New legislation that takes away yet another of your 'rights' is introduced and no one seems to bother.

We (as a nation) seem far more interested in how thin Victoria Beckham is this month or who Paris Hilton throws off her disgustingly vacuous TV show this week than we are about our civil liberties being systematically eroded on a weekly basis.

God, I wish I was French!

At least they know how to stand up to for themselves.
I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment birdie, the Wars on Terror/Drugs etc aren't wars. They are just tools used to eradicate our freedom.

Your Hitler quote was spot on, Goering said it even better.


"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials
It's a worrying world when quotes by Hitler and Goering actually make sense. I am also very concerned about the inroads this Government has made into our ancient rights and civil liberties and hope the people rise up to oppose the introduction of identity cards, as long as the riots don't clash with Emmerdale, of course.
When is the next General Election - that'll sort it!
will the tory muppets be any better



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Thoroughly recommend this
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
I'd count myself as fairly aware of the type of society we seem to be descending too but learnt a lot from it .

To quote Goebbels again
�If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.�
Great quote from a very famous German person, (Adolph Hitler)

Your Hitler quote was spot on, Goering said it even better.

Wow!!! I am criticised for collecting Nazi memorabilia and yet others get away with praising Hitler and his side-kick Goring.

Don't take it too seriously just tongue in the cheek and all that. (you've got to be so careful)

Totally agree about the British being pathetically apathetic, we will put up with anything.

Without a word of protest, the first thing were the surveillance cameras, that were put up on every street corner, monitoring our every move.

Regarding photographing our Policemen, I remember years ago on the Spanish Island of Ibiza, I tried to take a photograph of a policeman, I wasn't arrested but he wasn't too pleased.
When the country has so many extra ethnic citizens rather than discriminate its easier to put everyone in the same pot.

The real solution is to remove the human rights law and expel the real terrorists. We know who they are!
Off topic - Joni Mitchell had amazing legs!

Who would've thought???

(see AOG's link)
The scariest thing for me personally is that I find myself agreeing with the Mail . I need a lie down .
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Anotheoldgit - How dare you have an opinion! Switch off your computer! Don't you know that the energy that drives your computer expels CO2 (the most deadly gas known to man)? Even though I'm also using precious energy, it's okay for me to do it because I'm doing it to save the planet... but you..... you, you reader of the news, ...you.... commentator!

Look at you. Sitting there. Reading. Like you have some right to read the papers. Or read internet based news sites. Disgusting.

Drawing conclusions... on you own without someone telling what to think.


Honestly, if we all did that, where would we be...........

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