Queen Elizabeth the First

[Dolly1308]

Were liberty bodices available in those days ?

[Ethel]

No, liberty bodices were not known until the last century, from the 1940s really.

Corsets would have been worn by Elizabeth I though.

[Dolly1308]

Thank you Ethel .

[Lakeslass]

Do you mean those awful things with rubber buttons on? If so I wore them before the 40's

[JK2]

The original liberty bodice as we know it was made by R & H Symington of Leicester for girls of 9 - 13 in 1908 - but had bone buttons at the time. I had one with rubber buttons as a child.

[Dolly1308]

Join the club girls ,at least they kept your back eh !

[Dolly1308]

*** warm !

[shaneystar2]

They were around well before the '40's .
Liberty bodices are famously associated with Symingtons of Market Harborough, Leicestershire, but the name had already been used before they made their first bodice; a version for girls which sold for one shilling and ninepence-halfpenny in 1908.In America they called them emancipation bodices !
Tthe rubber buttons used to go all funny when mother put them through the mangle .

[1rovert]

Please! Please!
There is NO SUCH PERSON as Queen Elizabeth the First.
She was The First Queen Elizabeth.
If in her time, you had referred to her as such, you WOULD have been thrown into the Tower, and lost your head at least. You would have been suggesting that there was another Queen Elizabeth. Not your fault just that curtain historians use the same expression, it is absolutely wrong.
We can call Queen Elizabeth the second, because she is, just that, as we know there was one before her.

[1rovert]

So Sorry Ethel, I BOW to your knowledge on computers(no one better), but this is my subject.

[shaneystar2]

So do we have a First King George ,Henry ,Edward etc ? First Queen Mary ?
I always thought monarchs were known by their names and regnal numbers . I can't see the reasoning behind it .If she was the first then it's quite obvious there had been no other Elizabeth before her. Chopped heads or not . Did she refer to herself as such ? Hypothetically speaking if we were ever to have another Queen Victoria what would old Queen Vic be known as ... Victoria ! or The First Queen Victoria ?
Not disputing your superior knowledge of course just interested to know why .

[1rovert]

No Shaney, she would be known to herself as Queen Victoria.
To answer your question why? In the time of the first Queen Elizabeth, there was so many after her throne, to refer to Queen Elizebeth the first at that time, would infer that there was another one about. Don't forget, in those days, they never had as much information as we get today, and rumours were very easily spread, and what seems silly now, was taken very seriously then. If you think about it, you will understand it. Its a very interesting subject, start reading the easiest history book you can find, and you migh get hooked. Happy New Year to you all. JR

[shaneystar2]

Hahaha ...I've read enough history books in my time thank you.
Even the books I have about her refer to her as Elizabeth the First ....and the great David Starkey refers to as such in his books ..She may well have styled herself the First Queen E but I would say that in todays world she is just down as Elizabeth the First in the lists of monarchs .And you can Google yourself and read yourself silly she always comes up as such.I think it's just a little pedantic foible on your part :)
HNY to you too !

[Dolly1308]

Well 1trovert Thank you for the enlightenment but I'l stick with what I was taught at school ,a very,very long time ago , and that is Queen Elizabeth the First . As I was referring in particular to her time and not to today I think I was right .History was one of my favourite subjects at school and now you have spoilt it with trying to be pedantic. Thanks Shaney !! Hope your headache soon goes !