N Ireland Judge Rules Asylum Seekers Here Can't Be Sent To Rwanda.

[sandyRoe]

We are part of the UK so if this judgement stands refugees will be able to come here and avoid the risk of deportation.

[ToraToraTora]

another reason to reverse devolution.

[sandyRoe]

No, no.  We'll be providing a safe haven for people who are at the end of their tether.

[webbo3]

\\No, no.  We'll be providing a safe haven for people who are at the end of their tether.//

 

I agree, but these are not

[Old_Geezer]

As he is in part of the UK how can he decide that ? Still, the illegals can stroll back south instead.

[ToraToraTora]

if they all end up in NI, in sandy's back yard then great!

[sandyRoe]

In their haste to get Brexit done the Tories ignored some problems associated with N Ireland.

So now we are a bit like Schrödinger's cat.  We're in the EU, and out at the same time.

[Gromit]

The whole Rwanda policy has been a crock of shít from the beginning. No due diligence was done as far as it's legality was done so it has been bogged down in the courts for years.

The whole policy is based on an unproven assumption that it will deter illegal immigration. But since the policy was announced, illegal immigration has substantially increased.

A government devoid of ideas, grabbing at a daft option just to ward off their core voters jumping to Reform. But the longer this sad saga goes on the more Reform will hoover up exasperated, dissatisfied Tories. 

[sandyRoe]

TTT,

I think we'd agree that we don't agree on much, but I'm with you on your post at 18.03

[Old_Geezer]

Nowt much wrong with the Rwanda plan save that it is prey to the wreckers. The issue is with the ridiculous agreement with the EU and the failure to renegotiate or scrap it. It clearly isn't working. Plus not getting out of the existing HR agreement and implementing our own, replacing the duff agreement with our own wherever it is referenced is also causing problems,  which Westminster seems to be just fine with.

[ToraToraTora]

18:14 well they are paying £500 to go back to France, must have spooked them a bit.

https://news.sky.com/story/law-allowing-asylum-seekers-to-be-detained-and-sent-to-rwanda-disapplied-by-court-in-northern-ireland-13135151

 

[ichkeria]

"another reason to reverse devolution."

Thisa was a judge according to Sandy: nothing to do with the Assembly.

[ToraToraTora]

yes ich but without the assembly it would be under UK courts.

[Old_Geezer]

True. Problem probably is the very idea that EU law trumps UK law in a part of the UK. The UK government has stated it is fine yet this judge concludes otherwise. A ridiculous state of affairs.

[ichkeria]

"without the assembly it would be under UK courts."

Some mistake surely? The High Court in Belfast is a UK court.

What am I missing here?

"The High Court in Belfast on Monday morning ordered the "disapplication" of sections of the act as they undermine human rights protections guaranteed in the region under post-Brexit arrangements."

 

[ToraToraTora]

I'm sure the judge will explain, something to do with brexit.

[ichkeria]

"Following Brexit, the UK and the EU agreed the Windsor Framework, which stipulates there can be no diminution of the rights provisions contained within the Good Friday peace agreement of 1998, even if they differ from the rest of the UK."

There is your answer, Tora, whether you agree with it or not. And the UK govt can still appeal.  Not a devolution issue, but a knock-on effect, however indirect, of the fudge that were the Brexit arrangements for NI.

[THECORBYLOON]

This is a link to the summary of the judgment and I don't think the full judgment is online yet.

 

https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:EU:271d4980-bfd5-4c9f-8fc4-e36cb8d4eab1

[dave50]

The vast majority don't want these illegal immigrants landing on our shores. How difficult is that to comprehend? Deal with it and ignore the leftie do gooders.

[Gromit]

Dave50,

They are not dealing with it, and it will cost them at the election.

[ToraToraTora]

I love the way the EW like gromit say we are not dealing with it silently forgetting the fact that they are are the reason we are not dealing with it.