15 Minute Cities And A Few Minute Intellects. Paranoia Rules?

[Atheist]

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[douglas9401]

'Or so some others believe'?

[10ClarionSt]

The "Climate change/pollution" hoax rumbles on.

[Old_Geezer]

Who'd have believed a western government would abandon plans to deal sensibly with a pandemic, by allowing herd immunity to build up gradually, in favour of a chance to see if they can enforce lockdowns, make face masks compusory, etc. etc. on the citizens, and returning infected elderly patients back to their care homes to boot ? Clearly no western government would experiment enforcing such schemes, it's all fantasy, lies, and propaganda. Could only happen where tyranical regimes are ruling foreign lands with an iron fist.

And now it's being suggested that there are going to be 15 minute limits implied. Obviously ridiculous. All the evidence of such discussion has to be forgeries. Mustn't it.

[mushroom25]

//We already have minute cities, they're called villages and there are more than 15. //

true, but the 15mn rule doesn't work in many, if not all of them. time was, village kids could walk to their school in 20mn. nowadays they would have to walk that far along a narrow lane to the main road where a bus would take them the 30-odd more miles to the mega school all the region's kids go to. but of course that's too dangerous (too many cars/lycra lout cyclists/e scooters - oh and a paedophile lurking round every corner) so only safe way is by car.

[fiveleaves]

Was this the idea of the Post War new towns such as Stevenage and Milton Keynes?

Nothing controversial in having shops, GP's, schools, leisure facilities within easy reach.That is just sensible and practicle.

People in the future (if there is one) will drive less. The age of the car is coming to an end

[New Judge]

"Nothing controversial in having shops, GP's, schools, leisure facilities within easy reach.That is just sensible and practicle."

And....

"It's a small step from making it seem a "perfectly sensible idea" to making it almost compulsory by default."

For the connection, see my earlier post.

 

[Atheist]

NJ:

I don't understand how you get to "...making it almost compulsory by default."

 The UK planning laws require all LPA's to produce Development plans under a long democratic process of consultation and then the policies which are eventually adopted enable developers to work within a known framework. Adopted policies cover such issues as land use, traffic planning, aesthetics, neighbour amenity and so on. If developers ignore the policies then they might have planning applications refused and they might then appeal and win or lose.

Where does the compulsory by default come in?

[David H]

I was ridiculed endlessly for opposing 15 minute cities on Twitter. However they are using the facilities excuse as step one is to divide each city into sectors and ban driving between them. No one knows the next steps but carbon passports, car bans and climate lockdowns are all suggested from top universities and think tanks, and as such I think it's far better to err on the side of caution and nip these ideas in the bud before they take hold