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kuiperbelt | 15:05 Wed 19th Apr 2023 | Science
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A farmer is to enclose an area of land using a dry stone wall and 200 metres of picket fencing.
The rectangular plot is for home grown produce to meet his ever growing family's needs.
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Area = x.y y = 200 - 2x Now substitute for y in Area; A = x(200 - 2x) Expand brackets A = 200x - 2x² Differentiating A wrt x dA/dx = 200 - 4x At a maxima or minima dA/dx = 0 Therefore 0 = 200 - 4x Clearly x = 50 metres Since the fence is 200 metres long, the y dimension = 100 metres A = x.y = 50.100 = 5000 m² Proof (Pierre de Fermat?); Differentiating wrt x the first derivative...
11:44 Thu 20th Apr 2023
Maximum area would be from a square..that's your answer???

200 / 3 = 66 2/3 per side

Or did I miss something?
I'm not going to show the working this time but I would suggest you know
2x+ y=200 (the total length of picket fence)
Area A =x times y
Substitute y=200-2x into the area equation
Then differentiate with respect to x and equate that to zero to find the maximum value of x (from memory differentiate again and if the answer is negative then you have a maximum, which you do in this case)
I won't say what I make x and Y at moment. I might be wrong anyway....
I guess the challenge is to *prove* that it's a square. And when you do that, I think you will find that it's not a square.

Let the length of the shorter side be x, and the longer side y, then the area is

A = xy = x(200-2x) = 200x - 2x^2

where I have used x + y + x = 2x + y = 200 from the fixed length of fencing.

A is maximised when dA/dx = 0, or 200 - 4x = 0, or x = 50 -- in which case, y = 100, and A = 5000 m^2.

So, not a square after all! Note that the previous two solutions lead to an area of 4444.4... m^2, which is less.

The key point that was overlooked (by all of us, I was initially expecting it to be a square too) is that the *total* perimeter isn't fixed -- if it had been, then the answer *would* have been a square shape. But it isn't so it's not.
My turn to mess up Prudie's withholding of information... :P
:-)

Yep, I missed something. Thanks for the proof.
ok A levels not for me... or at least not doing questions on my tea break after just looking at my phone... shows need to read question properly
Area = x.y

y = 200 - 2x Now substitute for y in Area;

A = x(200 - 2x) Expand brackets A = 200x - 2x²

Differentiating A wrt x

dA/dx = 200 - 4x

At a maxima or minima dA/dx = 0

Therefore 0 = 200 - 4x

Clearly x = 50 metres

Since the fence is 200 metres long, the y dimension = 100 metres

A = x.y = 50.100 = 5000 m²

Proof (Pierre de Fermat?);

Differentiating wrt x the first derivative

dA/dx = 200 - 4x yields

d²A/dx² = -4

Since the second derivative is Negative, it concludes the occurence of x=50 is a maxima.

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Some great answers but Zebu's sketch gets BA.

I had not realised 'x' could be 100 metres to make Area = zero
I'm guessing y=0 becaus the 100metres is folded back on itself? LOL

Thanx again everyone!!

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