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lankeela | 23:33 Thu 23rd Feb 2023 | ChatterBank
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- heard it on one of those 60s music programmes last night

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Ed Sullivan it was
The songs listed are part of the list of hundreds of songs, and of course entire TV shows, that would not be suitable for airing today, because times have changed.

What irks me is, that instead of accepting that they are part of our cultural history, and should be viewed and heard in that context, the 'woke' brigade want them air-brushed from existence.

The entire point of any history, including cultural history, is to look at where we came from, in order to assess where we are, and where we are going, and that is not helped my Nazi style censorship.

The re-writing of the Roald Dahl stories is cultural destruction.

Children are capable of grasping moral messages written in terms they understand and relate to, without having them turned into adult language beyond their comprehension.

Context is everything - that is what should be underlined, not hiding something away, or pretending id never happened, as though it is shameful.
It being a heap of sheet would probably hinder it getting airplay.
relax, no Roald Dahl books have been destroyed by the changing of a few words, the originals are still available. Arthur Ransome sales didn't fall off when they renamed Titty as Kitty.

If you want real censorship, try this

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/aug/05/michigan-library-book-bans-lgbtq-authors
jno - // Ed Sullivan it was //

And our Ed has form in this area.

Everyone knows that he insisted on Elvis Presley being filmed from the waist up on his show.

What people forget, or didn't know, is that Elvis had appeared in all his glory on the Milton Berle Show first.

The networks then banned Elvis from moving at all on camera, hence his appalling appearance on the Steve Allen Show, where he was ambushed by the inclusion of a live hound on stage while he sang Hound Dog.

When Elvis appeared on Ed Sullivan, the 'no moving' edict appears to have been forgotten - Elvis was filmed full length for the first two of three appearances.

It was only the third show that was filmed 'from the waist up', as a publicity stunt for Sullivan to be seen to be 'shielding' such goings-on from the impressionable audiences looking in, even though everyone had seen Elvis on Milton Berle, and two of Sullivan's shows already.

Sullivan had held back from booking Elvis because of all the controversy, and that cost him.

Instead of the usual $5,000 per show, Colonel Tom Parker demanded, and got, a $50,000 fee for the three shows, knowing Sullivan could not afford not to feature the biggest pop star in the world in his show.
>>> The re-writing of the Roald Dahl stories is cultural destruction.

The publishers would seem to agree with you, Andy:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64759118
Buenchico, it wasn't uncommon in my youth, back when dinosaurs walked the Earth, to publish mildly bowdlerised versions of adult books for kids - I think I had a "cadet version" of Reach for the Sky. I could always have gone to the library to read the full version if I'd felt so inclined, as you can do with Dahl.

Of course if I'd known the truth about Douglas Bader I really would have been alarmed. Nasty piece of work.
Thanks for that Buenchico - it looks like common sense has triumphed after all.

I wonder who appoints these 'sensitivity' wonks, and what they think gives them the power to re-write the works of one of the greatest children's authors our fair isle has produced.

It's a repellent notion, that someone sees themselves as the arbiter of the tastes of generations of children, who grow into a lifetime of reading as adults, thanks to the allure of the magic of Mr Dahl's works.

As for his antisemitism, that could re-ignite the 'artist as opposed to the art' debate, and I would not wish to go there!

Mainly because such views never coloured his writing for children, and why indeed would it.
// looks like common sense has triumphed after all. //

for established writers and their existing works, at least. however for those writing new works, and those just starting their writing careers - if their work isn't first submitted to sensitivity readers, it won't get published. simples.
Remember the uproar when Enid Blyton books were sanitised - when was that, some time in the 80s?
You can still buy a children's book first published in 1898, unabridged and in original form, that I read when I was a tot, as did my children. It's even in Kindle version on Amazon.


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I remember Enid Blyton’s books being edited. I read them as a child, and later bought them for my son. Dick was changed to Rick, Fanny to Fran, Dame Slap to Dame Snap. I don’t know what happened to Moonface. Perhaps person with a circular face?

I suppose we can still enjoy the originals. If we can find them
I wonder what happened to Darrell Rivers in the Malory Towers books. She was a ‘brick’ but had a nasty temper, and would slap the other girls.
Miss Gray always forgave her though.
Clover - It's Miss Grayling.

Why do I remember these things!!!!
My dad's first wife was christened Fanny, it was a common name at the time
it was usually short for Frances, barry. The slang dictionary says it's had its other meaning since the 19th century, but I dare say respectable people didn't know this.

In the USA fanny and prat have moved from front to back. The Americans call a bum bag a fanny pack; and if you fall on your bum it's a pratfall.
Fanny?

Originally a hit for George Formby in 1935, this 1962 version of the song from Clinton Ford spent 10 weeks in the UK charts, reaching number 22:

Talking of songs that don't seem to be quite right these days, what about this classic (originally from 1928 but a hit in 1959)?
One of my aunts was christened Philomena...and was known as Fanny for the longest time. I think I was in my teens when she changed her name to Faye. It seemed strange to me that anyone would do that.
it wasn't much sung in English, though.. I was surprised to read different versions here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_the_Knife
https://www.ft.com/content/90df12d6-b87f-11e5-b151-8e15c9a029fb

I only knew the Bobby Darin version, which was not at all the sort of thing that usually made the charts. But they may be right that, just by being put in an opera, it was defanged.

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