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Some Covid Scaremongering Put Into Reality
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Oh dear Boris, looks like you are using Covid to control us and twisting figures to justify it.
Time for you and Herr Hancock to go mate.
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Time for you and Herr Hancock to go mate.
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YMB is hardly a lone voice, pretty or... otherwise.
Surprising that a paper that gets such flak usually, can be putting forward common sense and the evidence to back it up.
Now if only the whole country could take a deep breath, calm down, and realise that all the panic isn't helping. There's a virus, it's very unfortunate, never mind, let's not let it screw up our citizens and nation. Carry on.
Surprising that a paper that gets such flak usually, can be putting forward common sense and the evidence to back it up.
Now if only the whole country could take a deep breath, calm down, and realise that all the panic isn't helping. There's a virus, it's very unfortunate, never mind, let's not let it screw up our citizens and nation. Carry on.
The deaths are rocketing. They are not rocketing.
Hospital admissions are shooting up. No they are not also what you are not seeing is the length of stay which in most cases is minimal.
//Your a pretty lone voice. No goverments who are accountable agree with you and scientists must think your head is in the sand. Accept your wrong. Its serious.//
That is simply not true. I am not wrong, lockdowns are not the way to deal with this and it is not as serious as you make out. Perhaps you need to wake up.
Hospital admissions are shooting up. No they are not also what you are not seeing is the length of stay which in most cases is minimal.
//Your a pretty lone voice. No goverments who are accountable agree with you and scientists must think your head is in the sand. Accept your wrong. Its serious.//
That is simply not true. I am not wrong, lockdowns are not the way to deal with this and it is not as serious as you make out. Perhaps you need to wake up.
Initially we got the infection rate right down in order to ensure that the hospitals weren't overwhelmed. The cost included accepting that the infections were only delayed and would arise later. That stage has passed. Time now to simply monitor admissions and deaths and not get the screaming abdabs about increasing infection detection.
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Absolutely rocketing. See how much higher it is than ever before !
Absolutely rocketing. See how much higher it is than ever before !
//Are your eyes shut youngmadbog. The deaths are rocketing. Hospital admissions are shooting up.//
They are increasing, not rocketing and if you read the article you will see that hospitals are perfectly able to cope. As an example, Medway NHS trust in Kent had, yesterday, just four Covid patients on its wards. I imagine they’ve more people than that in with broken legs.
//Your a pretty lone voice.//
No he’s not. Read any national daily.
//I don’t agree with lockdowns centrally controlled but if we are going down that road for heavens sake do it properly: a short sharp national stoppage would be drastic but might actually have some effect://
It would have the effect of slowing the spread for the period it was imposed. As soon as it was relaxed the spread will begin again.
On 13th March, Sir Patrick Vallance, the government's Chief Scientific Officer, said this at a Covid briefing:
“If you suppress something very, very hard, when you release those measures it bounces back and it bounces back at the wrong time.
Our aim is to try to reduce the peak, broaden the peak, not suppress it completely. Also, because the vast majority of people get only a mild illness, to build up some kind of herd immunity, so more people are immune to this disease and we reduce the transmission, at the same time we protect those who are most vulnerable to it.”
Sounds remarkably like the “targeted protection” which I (and many others) have been advocating for some time. So what’s changed to move so far away from that strategy?
They are increasing, not rocketing and if you read the article you will see that hospitals are perfectly able to cope. As an example, Medway NHS trust in Kent had, yesterday, just four Covid patients on its wards. I imagine they’ve more people than that in with broken legs.
//Your a pretty lone voice.//
No he’s not. Read any national daily.
//I don’t agree with lockdowns centrally controlled but if we are going down that road for heavens sake do it properly: a short sharp national stoppage would be drastic but might actually have some effect://
It would have the effect of slowing the spread for the period it was imposed. As soon as it was relaxed the spread will begin again.
On 13th March, Sir Patrick Vallance, the government's Chief Scientific Officer, said this at a Covid briefing:
“If you suppress something very, very hard, when you release those measures it bounces back and it bounces back at the wrong time.
Our aim is to try to reduce the peak, broaden the peak, not suppress it completely. Also, because the vast majority of people get only a mild illness, to build up some kind of herd immunity, so more people are immune to this disease and we reduce the transmission, at the same time we protect those who are most vulnerable to it.”
Sounds remarkably like the “targeted protection” which I (and many others) have been advocating for some time. So what’s changed to move so far away from that strategy?
When comparing hospital admissions it pays to inject a little perspective. In the last month admissions have risen from 232 on 15th September to approximately 900 on 14th October (I have to say approximately because the numbers for Scotland for the 13th and 14th are not yet available. At this "rocketing" rate the average daily admissions is around 790.
Admissions to UK hospitals number over 1.6m annually. Of course the length of stay for those admissions varies considerably (as it does for Covid cases). But the number represents around 4,500 admissions daily. Bearing in mind that so-called "elective" surgery is all but abandoned that should leave more than enough capacity to cope. The NHS has around 140,000 beds. Not all of them are Intensive Care beds, but nowhere near all the Covid patients admitted need intensive care. Some perspective is certainly needed to counter the hysteria.
Admissions to UK hospitals number over 1.6m annually. Of course the length of stay for those admissions varies considerably (as it does for Covid cases). But the number represents around 4,500 admissions daily. Bearing in mind that so-called "elective" surgery is all but abandoned that should leave more than enough capacity to cope. The NHS has around 140,000 beds. Not all of them are Intensive Care beds, but nowhere near all the Covid patients admitted need intensive care. Some perspective is certainly needed to counter the hysteria.
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