FA report on Suarez / Evra spat.

Gromit | 19:46 Sat 31st Dec 2011 | Sport

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379. We accepted Mr Evra's account of these exchanges. The principal reasons for doing so were the following. First, Mr Evra was a credible witness whose evidence was not seriously undermined in any material respect, as explained above. Secondly, we found Mr Suarez, in contrast, to be an unreliable witness on critical parts of his evidence.

http://www.thefa.com/...ory%20Commission.ashx

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Philtaz

So let me get this straight, there's a lot of semantics going on over the possible use of the words 'why' and 'because' when the main crux of this whole argument is over the word '***' or the Uruguayan derivative of it.

Still no explanation forthcoming as to why Suarez felt the need to use the word or comment on Evra's colour.

Unbelievable!

pa___ul3

no the crux isn't over the use of the word, it's behind the context and sentiment behind it. Basically, anyone chosing not to believe that a Uruguayan can use that word without it being used in a racist manner is just plain ignorant. Do you honestly believe that the way the British use the word is the only way it can be meant?
What if it turned out that calling someone ginger in Turkmenistan was really, really offensive? Would you be sympathetic of anyone using that word there in a casual dialogue?
I know that sounds daft but it's the principle behind it, we can't decide whether another person's words were racist without taking into consideration their cultural norms, it's absurd to!

Philtaz

I'll ask again, which part of "because I don't speak to blacks" do you deem not to to be perceived as racist?

pa___ul3

if he actually said that I'd say it was racist. In the same way it's racist to say "don't touch me Sudaco".
Has it been confirmed that he said that or were they taking Evra's word as gospel based on him supposedly being such a credible witness?

Philtaz

Those were the words used, as reported by the BBC(whom I deem more reliable than Suarez) 2 days ago in their lunchtime bulletin.
Pages 27/28 of the FA report.
http://www.thefa.com/...ory%20Commission.ashx

pa___ul3

because the BBC were there weren't they! Blimey, you'd have fittet right in on that panel!

Philtaz

Er, I was referring to the BBC news item which was quoting directly from the FA report, as did every other media outlet once the report was made public!
Are you sure you're not Kenny in disguise?

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